Solved Will MS ever get the Start Menu Right?


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Ernimus Prime said:
Why don't you just leave the testing channel???
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I have been in the Release preview channel from the start of the system, this helps me to better serve clients and assist people

The fact that I get a copy of new releases a month or so early is a useful tool for me - the majority of general users will still be running windows 10 until they update their hardware - Businesses will also not update OS for a good while after the new OS has fully stabilised so I need to run the latest windows 10 at the moment.

I have a method to also run Windows 11 using Windows to Go so I can get used to the OS and support early adaptors. which is more compact than multiple hardware systems, and more reliable than Virtualisation

At present I am also involved in several application software test programs so do not wish to add extra complications by switching an OS during application testing.

I will be ready to upgrade after the holidays and Windows 10 will join my collection of other Operating systems, going back to XP, as an ISO that I can have running in minutes to check client issues in a safe windows to go environment
 

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    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
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    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
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    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
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    Cooling
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    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
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    N/A
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    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
Define right?
 

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    Windows 11 Home(Release Preview) - 24H2 - 26100.3037
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I'll throw my two cents in ......
After Windows 7 MS decimated the start menu, from Windows 8 and up , after every clean install I automatically install StartIsBack/StartAllBack , it's like second nature.
 

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    self built
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    Gigabyte GA-170-HD3
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    Bitdefender
Is it just me that doesn't really ever use the start menu other than for shutdown or the odd thing xD
 

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    Viper Steelseries 32gb@ 3600mhz
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I think the best Start Menu for my liking was in Windows XP. It was functional and made things accessible with minimal clicks.
But after XP, it went downhill and has continued the slide ever since. And that's why we have seen the advent of third party start menus.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
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    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
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    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
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    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
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    Mozilla Firefox
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    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
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    Core i7-8750H
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    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
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    N/A
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    N/A
    Cooling
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    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
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    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
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    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
Gosh, this still going on after five months and no answer? :scream:
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64
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    DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker build
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    Intel i9 13900KS P/E cores 5.7/4.4 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
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    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
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    96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
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    Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; Logan Martin Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
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    2560 x 1440p x 2
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    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
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    Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
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    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
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    500 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
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    Firefox
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    Defender, Macrium Reflect X ;-)
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    Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
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  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
I have settled with Stardock Start11, but also enabled the Windows Start Menu in the Start11 settings, so I can choose either one, depending on whether I want functionality and productivity or cumbersome inefficiency.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
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    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
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    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
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    Realtek ALC1220
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    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
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    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
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    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
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    Razer Ornata V2
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    Razer DeathAdder Essential
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    Laptop
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    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
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    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
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    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
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    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
I actually have no problem. I'm used to it now.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700x3D
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    ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS WiFi
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    CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3600
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    MSI Ventus 3x RTX 3080 OC
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    Onboard DTS custom chipset
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    MSI MAG27QRF-QD, 2nd monitor Acer Predator 27"
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    Main monitor: 1440p@165hz, 2nd 1440p@144hz
    Hard Drives
    ADATA XPG SX8200 1TB,. 2TB Samsung 970 Evo plus, 4TB WD Black.
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    Corsair RM750x
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    Phanteks Enthroo Pro Tempered glass
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    Logitech 910 ORION SPECTRUM
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    Logitech 502 PROTEUS SPECTRUM
    Internet Speed
    1 gigabyte
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
It feels like they have a perverse vendetta against the start menu. Every new iteration is worse than the last. It does make me wonder if they gather any metrics on its use or ever test it with real humans?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stormforce Prism RTX 3070
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus AMD TUF Gaming X570-Plus ATX Motherboard – Aura Sync RGB
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2 x Samsung U32H850UMU 32 inch 4K
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    1 x M2.2
    1x M2.1
    5 x HDD
    Cooling
    Cooler Master 120L AIO Watercooler
    Keyboard
    Rii wireless
    Mouse
    Generic cable
    Internet Speed
    320Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox & Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
bronskimac said:
It feels like they have a perverse vendetta against the start menu. Every new iteration is worse than the last. It does make me wonder if they gather any metrics on its use or ever test it with real humans?
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To be fair, They can get rid of the start menu if they want altogether, I can't remember the last time i used it/needed it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    Viper Steelseries 32gb@ 3600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte 2070 Super 8GB, +200 core + 600 memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 4k HDR, Two 1080p Benq and Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160/2560x1440/1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Adata XPG SX8200 PRO 1tb
    Samsung EVO 870 500GB
    PSU
    Corsair RX 650
    Case
    NZXT h510
    Cooling
    CM HYPER 212 RGB
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
    Mouse
    Steelseries Rival 710
Heheh, they made it so useless that I also stopped using it altogether. 😂
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
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    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
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    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
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    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825(Release Preview Channel)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
Stigg said:
I think the best Start Menu for my liking was in Windows XP. It was functional and made things accessible with minimal clicks.
But after XP, it went downhill and has continued the slide ever since. And that's why we have seen the advent of third party start menus.
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I don't use it either, but I myself liked the the full screen windows 10 menu. Just goes to show we don't all eat the same food :rolleyes:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-12900K Desktop Processor 16 (8P+8E)
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming Z790-PLUS WIFI D4
    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32gb (2x16gb) DDR4 3200mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Dual Geforce Rtx™ 3060 TI Edition 8gb Gddr6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ EW3270U 31.5” 3840x2160 UHD 16:9 HDR LED 4K LG 27UK850-W 27'' 4K UHD IPS LED Monitor with HDR10
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 with heatsink PRO PCIe 4.0 Gen 4 NVMe® SSD 1TB
    WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0
    Crucial T500 2TB Gen4
    Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 2tb Pcie Gen3. X4
    PSU
    Corsair AXi Series AX860i Digital 860W 80 PLUS PSU
    Case
    Fractal Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logi M705
    Internet Speed
    400 mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32
    Other Info
    Love fast boots
I've never really had a major issue with the windows start menu, or other major UI component, I've been using and supporting Windows since the start, and I find it usually takes me a week or two to get my head round the UI and "little niggles" can usually be fixed with free third party utilities, others will likely have a different set of issues but the fixes are developed quickly
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release Preview] [Win11 PRO HighEnd MUP-00005 DD]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Scan 3XS to my design
    CPU
    AMD RYZEN 9 7950X OEM
    Motherboard
    *3XS*ASUS TUF B650 PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    64GB [2x32GB Corsair Vengeance 560 AMD DDR5]
    Graphics Card(s)
    3XS* ASUS DUAL RTX 4060 OC 8G
    Sound Card
    On motherboard Feeding SPDiF 5.1 system [plus local sound to each monitor]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3XS Samsung 980Pro 2TB M.2 PCIe4 4 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 8TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    3XS Corsair RM850x 850w Fully Modular
    Case
    FDesign Define 7 XL BK TGL Case - Black
    Cooling
    3XS iCUE H150i ELITE Liquid Cool, Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitec MX Keys + K830 [Depending on where I'm Sat]
    Mouse
    Wireless Logitec - MX Master 3S +
    Internet Speed
    950 MB Down 55 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security [Latest]
    Other Info
    Also run...
    Dell XPS 17 Laptop
    HP Laptop 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64 HP 15.2"
    Nexus 7 Android tablet [x2]
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview 10.2 Tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Samsung S9 Plus Smartphone
    Wacom Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom ExpressKey Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest release]
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 17 9700
    CPU
    i7 10750H
    Motherboard
    Stock
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Stock Intel + GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    Stock 4 speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Stock 17" + 32" 4K 3840 x 2160 HDR-10
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400 HDR touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock Aluminium / Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock + 2 fan cooling pad
    Mouse
    Stock Trackpad +Logi Mx Master 3 or MX Ergo Trackball
    Keyboard
    Stock Illuminated + Logi - MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    950 MB Down 55 MB Up
    Browser
    Latest Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security 2021
    Other Info
    Also use an Adjustable Support for Laptop and Adjustable stand for monitor
barman58 said:
I've never really had a major issue with the windows start menu, or other major UI component, I've been using and supporting Windows since the start, and I find it usually takes me a week or two to get my head round the UI and "little niggles" can usually be fixed with free third party utilities, others will likely have a different set of issues but the fixes are developed quickly
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Can concur. I do find that opening it up to create folders and more pins has helped a lot too.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro (24H2 RP)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300H CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.40 GHz
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650, Intel UHD 630
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer CB272D
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB and 1T SSD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K375S
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    250MB
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro (Insider Dev Channel, unsupported)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell E6430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz (non-compliant)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA NVS 5200M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I avoid installing any 3rd-party tools that modifies Windows in any way. This is also most likely the reason my Windows usually work pretty good and without any huge headaches.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
SlicEnDicE said:
I avoid installing any 3rd-party tools that modifies Windows in any way. This is also most likely the reason my Windows usually work pretty good and without any huge headaches.
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I get your point but if you know what your doing, some third party tools are quite helpful. I don't have any issues with the ones use.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-12900K Desktop Processor 16 (8P+8E)
    Motherboard
    Asus TUF Gaming Z790-PLUS WIFI D4
    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32gb (2x16gb) DDR4 3200mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Dual Geforce Rtx™ 3060 TI Edition 8gb Gddr6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ EW3270U 31.5” 3840x2160 UHD 16:9 HDR LED 4K LG 27UK850-W 27'' 4K UHD IPS LED Monitor with HDR10
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 with heatsink PRO PCIe 4.0 Gen 4 NVMe® SSD 1TB
    WD_BLACK SN850X NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0
    Crucial T500 2TB Gen4
    Samsung 970 Evo M.2 2280 2tb Pcie Gen3. X4
    PSU
    Corsair AXi Series AX860i Digital 860W 80 PLUS PSU
    Case
    Fractal Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
    Keyboard
    Logi MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logi M705
    Internet Speed
    400 mbs
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Eset NOD32
    Other Info
    Love fast boots
SlicEnDicE said:
I avoid installing any 3rd-party tools that modifies Windows in any way. This is also most likely the reason my Windows usually work pretty good and without any huge headaches.
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In the major ERP systems that I have supported over my career, when I call vendor support about bugs the first thing they ask is if we did any modifications to their base code.... If so, the warranty is usually void.....
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro (24H2 RP)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9300H CPU @ 2.40GHz 2.40 GHz
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1650, Intel UHD 630
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer CB272D
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    256GB and 1T SSD
    Keyboard
    Logitech K375S
    Mouse
    Logitech M510
    Internet Speed
    250MB
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro (Insider Dev Channel, unsupported)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell E6430
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3540M CPU @ 3.00GHz 3.00 GHz (non-compliant)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 4000, NVIDIA NVS 5200M
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
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