Insider Windows 11 Insider Canary build 27788.1000 - Feb. 5



 Windows Blogs:

Hello Windows Insiders, today we are releasing Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 27788 to the Canary Channel.

We are also not planning to release SDKs for 27xxx series builds for the time being.

What’s new with Build 27788

Windows MIDI Services Public Preview

We’re excited to release the first in-box public preview of Windows MIDI Services, our complete rewrite of MIDI on Windows with a focus on a great experience for musicians and a strong foundation for future expansion and enhancement.

MIDI is the standard, first released in 1983, that is used to synchronize synthesizers and drum machines in almost all modern electronic music. It’s used to record and play back note information, control stage lights and effects, keep mixers in a large venue in sync, and so much more. Although it is not itself audio, the MIDI protocol is essential to making music and was heavily used in the rise of hip-hop and other genres. MIDI 2.0 is the first major update to the core MIDI protocol since 1983, offering everything that modern musicians need today, like increased speed and fidelity, better control of instruments, modern bi-directional conversations and negotiation between instruments, discovery, better USB timing, and more.

Windows MIDI Services is our new MIDI stack which handles not only MIDI 2.0 but also brings our MIDI 1.0 implementation up to modern expectations. It works on 64-bit operating systems on all supported processors, including Arm64. Windows MIDI Services offers the following benefits:
  • Full support of the MIDI 2.0 Standard, including high-speed data transmission, higher-fidelity messages, increased resolution for controller values, and full in-service MIDI 2.0 endpoint discovery and protocol negotiation.
  • Faster transports, leading to better timing and reduced jitter.
  • Faster USB MIDI driver with full support for both MIDI 1.0 and MIDI 2.0.
  • Every endpoint is now multi-client, meaning multiple apps can use a device at the same time.
  • Better endpoint and port
  • In-service scheduling of outgoing timestamped messages, and timestamped incoming messages, for apps using the new Windows MIDI Services App SDK.
  • Built-in loopback and app-to-app MIDI
  • Automatic translation between MIDI 1.0 and MIDI 2.0 based on API, application, and device needs.
  • Much more device metadata available to applications.
  • Better device add/update/remove notifications.
  • Backwards compatibility with our WinMM (MME) MIDI 1.0 API (and WinRT MIDI 1.0 in the future) enabling applications to light up with new features without any changes, and even access MIDI 2.0 devices at a MIDI 1.0 feature level.
  • Open source. The MIDI Service, all its transports, all the tools, the tests, and the SDK are all MIT-licensed open source, and have been developed in concert with hardware and software partners around the world.
New USB MIDI 2.0 Class Driver: The new USB MIDI 2.0 Class Driver, graciously provided to Microsoft by AMEI (Association of Musical Electronics Industry of Japan) and written by AmeNote, is a high-speed USB MIDI driver which works with both the new USB MIDI 2.0 devices, as well as with class-compliant USB MIDI 1.0 devices. By default, for compatibility, this is enabled only for USB MIDI 2.0 devices and a handful of USB MIDI 1.0 devices. However, you may manually assign this driver to any class-compliant USB MIDI 1.0 device yourself to gain the better transfer mechanisms. We also have several built-in transports for things that were not previously available without third-party drivers. Learn more about the built-in transports here.

Windows MIDI Services App SDK and Tools: Applications using Windows MIDI Services do so through the Windows MIDI Services App SDK, shipped out-of-band. Current preview releases are available on our GitHub repo releases page. Please note that these are unsigned releases and so will give you a warning when you download and install. In addition to installing the required runtime components, the SDK runtime installer includes these tools:
  • Windows MIDI Services Console (midi.exe): The all-around console tool for sending messages, checking the state of MIDI, monitoring incoming messages, sending System Exclusive, and much more.
  • MIDI Diagnostics (mididiag.exe): A tech support tool which provides information about the state of MIDI on the PC.
  • MIDI Kernel Streaming Endpoint Info (midiksinfo.exe): A hardware developer-focused tool which provides information about the KS (Kernel Streaming) endpoints.
  • MIDI multicast dynamic DNS Info (midimdnsinfo.exe): A tool to support the upcoming Network MIDI 2.0 transport.
The Windows MIDI Services App SDK also includes the MIDI Settings app – a desktop application for managing endpoints, renaming endpoints and ports, creating loopback devices, managing your network MIDI 2.0 connections, and more.

In addition, we’re currently working on our Network MIDI 2.0 transport, recently demonstrated at the NAMM Show in California, the virtual patch-bay to enable routing between endpoints, and a rewrite of our BLE MIDI 1.0 transport. This will all ship in a future version of Windows MIDI Services.

We look forward to having Windows Insiders who dabble in music creation try out the Windows MIDI Services Public Preview and MIDI 2.0. Try out using existing applications that use the WinMM MIDI 1.0 function with the new Windows MIDI Services installed. Additionally, any MIDI 1.0 devices with specific IHV drivers. You can also join the discussion here on Discord if you have questions or are looking to help! You will find a list of known issues documented here.

Ability to seamlessly resume OneDrive files in 1-click from your phone to PC

We are gradually rolling out the ability to seamlessly resume working on OneDrive files from your phone (iOS and Android) on your Windows 11 PC with a single click. With this feature, you will get a notification asking you if you want to pick up where you left off editing a OneDrive file like a Word doc that you last viewed or edited on your phone within a 5-minute time window preceding unlocking your PC.

A cross-device resume notification indicating that you can continue working across devices seamlessly.
A cross-device resume notification indicating that you can continue working across devices seamlessly.

Upon clicking on this notification, the same file that you were viewing or editing previously on your phone will open in your default browser on your PC.

Here are some important details about how this feature works:
  • This feature works only when signing into OneDrive with a Microsoft account. Work and school accounts are not supported. And you need to be using the same Microsoft account signing into OneDrive on your phone and signing into your Windows 11 PC.
  • This feature supports Word docs, Excel spreadsheets, PowerPoint presentations, OneNote notebooks/pages, and PDFs.
  • The OneDrive file must be opened on your phone when your PC is locked. If you then unlock your PC within 5 minutes of accessing the file on your phone, you will receive the resume notification as noted above.
  • For the best experience using this feature, you should be logged into OneDrive in your default browser on your PC.
This feature can be managed and turned off via Settings > Apps > Resume.


FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Devices and Drivers -> Linked Phone.

Changes and Improvements

[File Explorer]

  • When “Restore previous folder windows at logon” is enabled in File Explorer, we will also now restore all the extra tabs which you previously had open in each File Explorer window. As part of this work, we have also updated the logic for the “Automatically save my restartable apps and restart them when I sign back in” setting via Settings > Accounts > Sign in options, so that when you enable this, we will automatically enable the File Explorer specific setting for you too.

  • We’re adding a new option to snooze or turn off the “Start backup” reminder in the File Explorer address bar, for those that aren’t already backing up their Documents, Pictures, or Desktop folders. This option is available when you right-click “Start backup”.

[Settings]

  • We are starting to roll out the Settings homepage for commercial customers on PCs managed by an IT administrator. The feature will show some existing cards relevant to enterprise-managed PCs like “Recommended settings” and “Bluetooth devices” as well as two new enterprise-specific device info and accessibility preferences cards. For commercial customers who also use their Microsoft account on their managed PC, there will also be a new accounts card indicating the presence of both work and school and Microsoft account types. We are starting the rollout of this gradually with managed commercial PCs who have both work and school, and Microsoft accounts presently seeing this experience first.


    The Settings homepage for a commercial customer on a managed PC.
    The Settings homepage for a commercial customer on a managed PC.

Fixes

[General]

  • Fixed an issue in Build 27783 which was causing multiple surfaces (including the taskbar, search, Settings, and lock screen) to cyclically crash for a small number of Insiders.

[Other]

  • Fixed an issue which was causing some Insiders to have a SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION bugcheck in Build 27783.
  • Fixed an issue where the description for virtual NICs wasn’t displayed correctly in ncpa.cpl, it showed garbled characters.
  • Fixed an underlying issue which could cause scanning apps to not detect a scanner, although one was connected.
  • Improved the colors used in MMC when items are selected, both generally, and when contrast modes are enabled.

Known issues

[General]

  • [IMPORTANT NOTE FOR COPILOT+ PCs] If you are joining the Canary Channel on a new Copilot+ PC from the Dev Channel, Release Preview Channel or retail, you will lose Windows Hello pin and biometrics to sign into your PC with error 0xd0000225 and error message “Something went wrong, and your PIN isn’t available”. You should be able to re-create your PIN by clicking “Set up my PIN”.
  • We’re working on the fix for an issue where SFC /scannow is showing errors every time it’s run.

[File Explorer]

  • If you open a File Explorer window and minimize it in this build, it may not be rendered correctly when you restore it.

[Settings]

  • [NEW] The Home page of Settings may crash. If you are impacted by this, you should still be able to open specific Settings pages directly by searching for them from the taskbar.

[Hyper-V]

  • We’re investigating reports where Hyper-V, and other features which rely on Hyper-V (such as WSL) don’t work properly.

Microsoft Store Update

Windows Insiders in the Canary and Dev Channels running version 22501.1401.xx and higher of the Microsoft Store and higher will see the following improvement rolling out:

Improving installation options for games: We’re adding a new capability that lets you install individual components for some games. For instance, Call of Duty and Halo can let you install (or not install) high-resolution textures or the campaign. This gives you greater control of your gaming experience and the install size of your games.

Example of game components that can be individually installed in the Microsoft Store for some games.
Example of game components that can be individually installed in the Microsoft Store for some games.

Once your game is installed, you can return to its product page, click the new Manage button, and modify what components are installed.

New Manage button on some game product pages showing components.
New Manage button on some game product pages showing components.

Give it a try and let us know what you think!

FEEDBACK: Please file feedback in Feedback Hub (WIN + F) under Microsoft Store.

Reminders for Windows Insiders in the Canary Channel

  • The builds we release to the Canary Channel represent the latest platform changes early in the development cycle and should not be seen as matched to any specific release of Windows and features and experiences included in these builds may never get released as we try out different concepts and get feedback. Features may change over time, be removed, or replaced and never get released beyond Windows Insiders. Some of these features and experiences could show up in future Windows releases when they’re ready.
  • Many features in the Canary Channel are rolled out using Control Feature Rollout technology, starting with a subset of Insiders and ramping up over time as we monitor feedback to see how they land before pushing them out to everyone in this channel.
  • Some features may show up in the Dev and Beta Channels first before showing up in the Canary Channel.
  • Some features in active development we preview with Windows Insiders may not be fully localized and localization will happen over time as features are finalized. As you see issues with localization in your language, please report those issues to us via Feedback Hub.
  • To get off the Canary Channel, a clean install of Windows 11 will be required. As a reminder – Insiders can’t switch to a channel that is receiving builds with lower build numbers without doing a clean installation of Windows 11 due to technical setup requirements.
  • The desktop watermark shown at the lower right corner of the desktop is normal for these pre-release builds.
  • Check out Flight Hub for a complete look at what build is in which Insider channel.
Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon



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I've been struggling with the same issues on both of my physical Canary laptops (Lenovo X12 Hybrid Tablet and Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 380X). I just got the .NET update installed on the X12 using the dism-gui tool (thanks @Dronix) and am 75% in on installation of the subsequent 22788 upgrade. If that works, I'll do the same on the X380. Hopefully, this will do the trick!
--Ed--

Note added hours later: also worked on the X380 Yoga. I've blogged about this, in fact, at Long Hard 27788 Upgrade Road - Ed Tittel. Cheers!
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo X380 Yoga
    CPU
    i7-8650U (8th Gen/Kaby Lake)
    Motherboard
    20LH000MUS (U3E1)
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 620
    Sound Card
    Integrated Conexant SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    FlexView Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 1 TB PCIe x3 NVMe SSD
    external 5TB Seagate USB-C attached HDD
    PSU
    Lenovo integrated 65W power brick
    Case
    Laptop
    Cooling
    Laptop
    Keyboard
    Integrated Lenovo ThinkPad keyboard
    Mouse
    touchscreen, touchpad
    Internet Speed
    GbE (Spectrum/Charter)
    Browser
    all of em
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Purchased early 2019 as Windows Insider test PC
You can try this, go to tenforums and download the reg to install .cab files in the context menu.



Go to,
C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download

The Cab file should be there for KB5053390. Right click and install.
@Fabler2, @Dronix,
I used the DISM GUI as suggested by Dronix earlier and it worked.
But this time I just used this command below from elevated command prompt, then rebooted and clicked retry on W.U. for the failing update of .NET.
You can see below that it completed fine, and now it shows up in Update History successfully installed. 😉

dism /online /add-package /packagepath:"C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\6fd2bd8c022e3fa5dcd15465f840f119\Windows11.0-KB5053390-x64-NDP481.cab"

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
@Fabler2, @Dronix,
I used the DISM GUI as suggested by Dronix earlier and it worked.
But this time I just used this command below from elevated command prompt, then rebooted and clicked retry on W.U. for the failing update of .NET.
You can see below that it completed fine, and now it shows up in Update History successfully installed. 😉

dism /online /add-package /packagepath:"C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\6fd2bd8c022e3fa5dcd15465f840f119\Windows11.0-KB5053390-x64-NDP481.cab"

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Different ways of doing it, as long as it works.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home & Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Vivobook
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen™ 7 7730U
    Motherboard
    M1605YA
    Memory
    15.0GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @ 1596MHz (22-22-22-52)
    Graphics Card(s)
    512MB ATI AMD Radeon Graphics (ASUStek Computer Inc)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1200@60Hz) - P1 PLUS (1920x1080@59Hz)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1200
    Hard Drives
    953GB Western Digital WD
    PSU
    45 Watts
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth.
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ACER NITRO
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5800H / 3.2 GHz
    Motherboard
    CZ Scala_CAS (FP6)
    Memory
    32 GB DDR4 SDRAM 3200 MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 6 GB GDDR6 SDRAM
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio. NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" LED backlight 1920 x 1080 (Full HD) 144 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB NVMe M.2
    PSU
    180 Watt, 19.5 V
    Mouse
    Lenovo Bluetooth
    Internet Speed
    500 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
Maybe MSFT pulled that update as normally when you google the KB number for .NET 3.5 and 4.8 Cumulative update, there would be a article on it and you can download the .MSU file from MUC which would be listed in the article. You would then run the .msu file and it would install the update.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender that came with Windows
update both for PC and laptop

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro Insider Canary Ver 24H2(OS Build :27788.1000
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build Aswin😂😂👍
    CPU
    i9-9900 8C/16T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    MSI-B360 Gaming Pro Carbon-ATX(update bios 2D2(2021) to 2D0 (2022)
    Memory
    (2 x 8 GB) 16 GB DDR-4 @3000 Mhz Patriot Viper
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidea RTX-2080 Ti 11 GB asus
    Sound Card
    Speaker(Realtek audio)(standby) and Lg Speaker build in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Monitors LG TV 43 inch 43NANO75TPA,(4K,60 Hz,WCG,HLG,HDR10+): Hdmi 2.0b x3
    Screen Resolution
    Desktop mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x 2160/60 Hz,HDR Enable: Destop Mode 4096x2160/60Hz Active Signal Mode 4096 x2160/60 Hz
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD Gen 3 x4,1 TB KYO Utimate K350 (OS) with heat sink 2.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-512 GB KYO ULTIMATE K350 with heat Sink 3. SSD SATA 500 GB WD 4.SSD SATA120 GB Kingston....5. HDD 1TB Seagate
    PSU
    850 w full modular 80 gold gamemax
    Case
    Aigo DarkFlash phantom ATX(with 8 RGB Fans(4 Front+ 2 Rear (exhaust)+ 2 bottom side) DR 12) Tempered glass -Full Tower.
    Cooling
    AIO gamemax(CPU liquid cooler) L240 RGB-Top side(exhaust)
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    logitech
    Internet Speed
    Cable LAN CAT 6 E(25 meters) ,TP-link switch adapter 5 ports 1000/1000 Mbps Download 184 Mbps Upload 98 Mbps, Intel® I219-V Gigabit LAN controller
    Browser
    edge stable
    Antivirus
    MS defender A/V
    Other Info
    This PC on second floor, GPON ONT (optic network terminal ISP term) on ist floor
    2021
    add 2 fans 120 mm in bottom side😊👍.oct
    2022
    Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000 may
    2023 jan
    detected 1 Ram 3200 Mhz Hyper X kingston problem -> replace both with patriot DDR4 3000 Mhz from ex i7-9700😁
    2023 jan
    update bios 2D2(2021) --->> 2D0 (2022)
    2023 March
    Change storage : SSD SATA ------>>>>M2.NVme SSD (OS)
    2023 April
    Change storage for OS Nvme 512GB ---->>> 1TB
    2024
    PSU 650 w 80 plus bronze -------> 850 w full modular 80 gold
    GTX 1060 6 GB galax-------> RTX 2080 Ti Asrock 2 x 8 pin
    update bios from 2D0------>>> 2E0
    change cable Hdmi 2.0b to hdmi 2.1 and resetting Nvidia control panel
    just testing after new processor come will replace with hdmi2.0b .
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro Canary Ver 24H2 OS build :27788.1000
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Nitro AN515-54
    CPU
    Intel core i5-9300H CPU@2.4 GHz 4C/8T Coffee Lake
    Motherboard
    Manufacturer CFL , Model Octavia_CFS , Bios Version V1.33( 11/17/2020)
    Memory
    DDR4 16 GB 2 x 8 GB, 2666 Mhz Sk Hynix- Jedec 11 : CL : 20-19-19-43-61/1.2 V
    Graphics card(s)
    1. Intel graphic UHD 630 2. Nvidea Geforce GTX 1650 , 4 GB
    Sound Card
    1.Realtek Version 6.0.8929.1 2. NVIDIA Version 4.39.0.0 ( Virtual Audio Device ( Wave Extensible) (WDM)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1.M2.Nvme SSD gen 3 x 4-1TB (OS) XPG SX8200 Pro with Heatsink 2. M2. SATA 1 TB 3. HDD 1 TB
    PSU
    Acer
    Case
    Acer
    Cooling
    Double Cooling Fans
    Mouse
    Optical mouse(FO)
    Keyboard
    1.Acer 2.Votre(wired)
    Internet Speed
    1. Cable Lan Cat 6E (25 meters) 2. Intel Wireless-AC 9560 160 Mhz 3. Realtek Gaming GBe Family cont (RJ45). TP-link switch adapter 1000/1000 Mbps Download : 187 Mbps Upload : 87 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge Stable
    Antivirus
    MS A/V
    Other Info
    This Laptop on second Floor , GPON ONT(optic network terminal ISP term ) on 1st Floor
    2022
    1. Upgraded from Windows 11 Home to Pro------May
    2. Replace TP link switch adapter 100/100 to 1000/1000→→→May
    2023
    3.Repale Storage(OS) from SATA to NVME---->> Feb
    4. ugrade ram 12 GB to 16 GB------>>>>April
    2024
    nvme 512GB replace to 1 TB
    M2 sata 240 GB replace to 1 TB
normally when you google the KB number for .NET 3.5 and 4.8 Cumulative update, there would be a article on it and you can download the .MSU file from MUC which would be listed in the article.
That is only true for Release Channel KBs. This is a Canary Channel KB, Insider updates are not available in the Microsoft Update Catalog.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
That is only true for Release Channel KBs. This is a Canary Channel KB, Insider updates are not available in the Microsoft Update Catalog.
Hmm, good point but would Beta channel KBs hold true or do they use Release Channel KBs as well? The other thing is I thought when there is a KB number involved, there would be a article attached to that number available but this one doesn't seem to have a article anywhere.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP/7/8/8.1/10/11, Linux, Android, FreeBSD Unix
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
    PSU
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Case
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Cooling
    Stock
    Keyboard
    Stock
    Mouse
    SwitftPoint ProPoint
    Internet Speed
    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
    Antivirus
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Maybe MSFT pulled that update as normally when you google the KB number for .NET 3.5 and 4.8 Cumulative update, there would be a article on it and you can download the .MSU file from MUC which would be listed in the article. You would then run the .msu file and it would install the update.
If you are referring to KB5053390, they did not pull it yet.
It still tries to install with W.U. on Build 27788 and fails every time with the same error.

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I managed to install it on a few machines with the workarounds described earlier.
No official fix yet from MS. Just a typical reply to the FBH reports. 😎


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@fg2001gf11F - Yes, that is what I am referring to and there are basically two ways to do it. The DISM method and the DISM GUI method. I guess I never noticed that Canary KB's didn't have articles attached to them. I didn't have the problem as both the build and the .NET 3.5 and 4.8.1 update installed without issues and I also updated from 22783 in a Hyper-V running under 24H2 Beta which you said in your comment here that you have not seen 22783 successfully installing the .NET update.

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@fg2001gf11F - Yes, that is what I am referring to and there are basically two ways to do it. The DISM method and the DISM GUI method. I guess I never noticed that Canary KB's didn't have articles attached to them. I didn't have the problem as both the build and the .NET 3.5 and 4.8.1 update installed without issues and I also updated from 22783 in a Hyper-V running under 24H2 Beta which you said in your comment here that you have not seen 22783 successfully installing the .NET update.
It was already reported that there was no problem with Hyper-V, I don't use Hyper-V, all my real machines had the same error. 🤬
 

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    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
It was already reported that there was no problem with Hyper-V, I don't use Hyper-V, all my real machines had the same error. 🤬
That is why it is puzzling as the components are the same unless Windows had some way to detect a VM versus a real machine. @magilla is on 2 real machines though but only he would know as WU History would show what was the version before 27788 and if it's 22783 or not.

Hey Shawn @Brink , what version were you on before and did both the .NET and 27788 download and install successfully?
 
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    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
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That is why it is puzzling as the components are the same unless Windows had some way to detect a VM versus a real machine. @magilla is on a real machine though but only he would know as WU History would show what was the version before 27788 and if it's 22783 or not.
VM machines can be useful for testing, but quite often are not exactly simulating a real machine. 😉
I worked with VM in the mainframes before PCs even existed, and quite often could not reproduce problems running as a guest OS on a VM machine.
In those cases, we had to run native OS to get the real behavior. 😂😂🤷‍♂️
After 30 years, things with VM still have the same limitations and disadvantages. 😵‍💫🤣🤣
Sure, Windows can detect if it is running on VM.
 

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@fg2001gf11F - LOL. I'm using a VM only to download and install but never use the actual Canary under Hyper-V for anything. Wait, what year was it that you worked with VM in the mainframes as you said after 30 years but then you also said before PCs even existed and PCs are around for the last 43.5 years or so.
 

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    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
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    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Stock
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    Stock
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    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
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    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
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    Windows Defender that came with Windows
@fg2001gf11F - LOL. I'm using a VM only to download and install but never use the actual Canary under Hyper-V for anything. Wait, what year was it that you worked with VM in the mainframes as you said after 30 years but then you also said before PCs even existed and PCs are around for the last 43.5 years or so.
Started in 1969. 😂🤷‍♂️
That makes it over 55 years ago.
VM for PCs was not around 43 years ago it came much later.
 
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@fg2001gf11F - LOL. I'm using a VM only to download and install but never use the actual Canary under Hyper-V for anything. Wait, what year was it that you worked with VM in the mainframes as you said after 30 years but then you also said before PCs even existed and PCs are around for the last 43.5 years or so.
Big difference with Mainframes VM, you don't need a license for each Virtual machine you run. The license is based on the actual Host hardware machine, and you can run as many Virtual machines as possible under the same license.
Completely different licensing scheme. 🤣🤣🤣
 

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    NVIDIA RTX 2060
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Started in 1969. 😂🤷‍♂️
That makes it over 55 years ago.
VM for PCs was not around 43 years ago it came much later.
Same year as the Internet. I wasn't even alive until 5 years after that! VM for PCs was probably 20+ years ago.
 

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    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    32GB using 2x16GB modules
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    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
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    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
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    3840x2160
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    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
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    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
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    Windows Defender that came with Windows
Big difference with Mainframes VM, you don't need a license for each Virtual machine you run. The license is based on the actual Host hardware machine, and you can run as many Virtual machines as possible under the same license.
Completely different licensing scheme. 🤣🤣🤣
More like enterprise volume license vs Nickel and Diming... LOL
 

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    Intel® Core™ i7-8750H 8th Gen Processor 2.2Ghz up to 4.1Ghz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS 15 9570
    Memory
    32GB using 2x16GB modules
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD 630 & NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti with 4GB DDR5
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3266-CG
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    15.6" 4K Touch UltraHD 3840x2160 made by Sharp
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    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba KXG60ZNV1T02 NVMe 1024GB/1TB SSD
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Dell XPS 15 9570
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    Stock
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    Stock
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    SwitftPoint ProPoint
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    Comcast/XFinity 1.44Gbps/42.5Mbps
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    Microsoft EDGE (Chromium based) & Google Chrome
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    Windows Defender that came with Windows

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