Windows 11 is awful

garlin · Aug 25, 2024

pseymour said:
MSFT would have to start a new OS to create an iOS or Android equivalent. They tried that many moons ago, but that was under different leadership.

My rambling aside, Windows 10X would have been interesting. I would have liked to see the state separation between user and system.

Yeah, appointing the Windows Phone guy (Terry Myerson) or the Surface PC guy (Panos Panay) in charge of Windows didn't work out for mobile devices.

neves · Aug 25, 2024

antspants said:
I have seen comment that predicts Microsoft will eventually rewriteWindows to resemble something like GoogleOS/AndroidOS or Apples IOS.

Who knows what form that may come in, perhaps the Windows App as the UI, sending us to a Cloud based OS?
Whatever it is, zero control for the user and total mayhem.

Most people understand Windows versions - only in terms of GUI (to such extent - that you'd think that's all there is to it - just a GUI working on magic). So if it's using a similar GUI - won't make much difference for the majority of users. Tweak freaks - might miss the old Control Panel, they'll definitely miss the registry or even group policy - but who knows - might still have a hidden Dev menu (like Android). Tho, seems more like a long shot - since Microsoft devs are to proud of Windows kernel, of DirectX and their own way of doing things (copying others only in terms of UI). Still, latest releases of Windows - have the biggest codding mess pilled-up underneath... most haunted OS by its predecessors (ancient code, ancient registry entries, outdated group policy entries intended for previous versions, old apps simply ported from older versions of Windows, orphan files, etc).

Was quite ironic - to see so much hate for Windows 11 upon release (and even a year latter) - "REGARDED AS A NEW OS" from Microsoft, where quite a lot of those users - seem more like old dogs who couldn't learn a new trick (which is basically what Windows 11 was - same old same old with couple of new tricks on top). Then again... being a Windows, OSX or Android User - is usually more like a statement - that one is fond of being a novice for life (till OS's EOL - at least), with 0 interest of popping the hood and taking a glance at what's underneath. After all, if they bothered even in the leastest - they could easily notice that Windows 11 was/is more like a feature pack for Windows 10 or older versions...

RD Mercer · Aug 25, 2024

I like 11, not many problems here, but maybe a freeze up about once a month. I'm just waiting for SpaceX to come out with an new OS.

kelper · Aug 25, 2024

SpaceX can't even write an Android app. My Starlink app is on v27 and still full of bugs!

RD Mercer · Aug 25, 2024

kelper said:
SpaceX can't even write an Android app. My Starlink app is on v27 and still full of bugs!

Well give them some time, I think right now they are working with the Lego's version.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

RD Mercer said:
I think right now they are working with the Lego's version.

The Pool Man · Aug 25, 2024

I tried to switch from Mac to PC during Windows 8, curious as to why all 8 machines invited you to roll back to 7. Five minutes of using 8 and I got it. I returned that laptop. Tried the exact same laptop during Windows 10 introduction and haven't looked back since.

Windows 11 is fine. A little laggy at times but I gather that's being fixed. I have 3 mini pcs in the house and they all work perfectly. I know must users do not run SFCs after each update. I do and have never had a problem. Not one. I've had to reinstall the OS a few times to fix something, only to learn it wasn't the OS.

The only problem with Windows is their casual way of updating. Mac OS would have erased Control Panel entirely with the introduction of 'Settings'. 10 should have launched without Control Panel. But no, in Windows land, improvements take years instead of months.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

The Pool Man said:
Five minutes of using 8 and I got it.

8.1 wasn’t all terrible. Still no match for 7 or 10.

TraderGary · Aug 25, 2024

The Pool Man said:
I tried to switch from Mac to PC during Windows 8, curious as to why all 8 machines invited you to roll back to 7. Five minutes of using 8 and I got it. I returned that laptop. Tried the exact same laptop during Windows 10 introduction and haven't looked back since.

Windows 11 is fine. A little laggy at times but I gather that's being fixed. I have 3 mini pcs in the house and they all work perfectly. I know must users do not run SFCs after each update. I do and have never had a problem. Not one. I've had to reinstall the OS a few times to fix something, only to learn it wasn't the OS.

The only problem with Windows is their casual way of updating. Mac OS would have erased Control Panel entirely with the introduction of 'Settings'. 10 should have launched without Control Panel. But no, in Windows land, improvements take years instead of months.

Apple is working with a completely closed system that they have total control over. Apple writes their OS only for their own totally controlled Apple devices. In the Windows world there are thousands of different models and configurations of different makers, and the OS must work with all of them. I'm amazed that Microsoft does as well as it does.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

TraderGary said:
Apple is working with a completely closed system that they have total control over.

But even Apple IOS can be manipulated via Jailbreaking.

RJARRRPCGP · Aug 25, 2024

Mike 7 said:
All of a sudden it decided to reset itself

Do you mean bugcheck-reboot? That usually means a severe hardware problem!

I don't know what you mean, just by the description alone.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

RJARRRPCGP said:
Do you mean bugcheck-reboot? That usually means a severe hardware problem!

I don't know what you mean, just by the description alone.

I first thought maybe the Reset function in settings was used, mistaking it for some other type of repair. But that’s just speculation.

RJARRRPCGP · Aug 25, 2024

Edwin said:
I liked the good ole days where you didn't actually need an internet connection to work on your PC...,
but, you had to install Encyclopedia Britannica onto your PC via 7 DVD's!!!

DVDs? I remember the CD-ROM days, where we had a good amount of CD-ROMs. So more old-skool!

RJARRRPCGP · Aug 25, 2024

The Pool Man said:
I know many users do not run SFCs after each update. I do and have never had a problem.

The problem I discovered recently, is the problem where Windows Update should automatically go into roll-back mode for corruption that should never happen in the first place. I saw that my Windows 11 wasn't even updated correctly, and was forced to re-install the LCU!

And I caught Windows Update this month, failing to detect a severe problem. So, it left some files where there was an error reported for in the event log! App Readiness failing with an error code instead. Random files were not updated, I suspected! Putting loads of users at security risk!

I discovered that incident, after checking the event log again. Not only did SFC (CBS) fail, I experienced errors I don't recall getting before with 11!

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

RJARRRPCGP said:
DVDs? I remember the CD-ROM days, where we had a good amount of CD-ROMs. So more old-skool!

They’re no more. Thank God for that. CD’s were a pain in the rear. But I kept all my disks

Winuser · Aug 25, 2024

antspants said:
8.1 wasn’t all terrible. Still no match for 7 or 10.

IMO, MS should have skipped Windows 8.0 and waited until Windows 8.1 was ready. I'm still ticked off by what MS did to their Windows phones. The best phones I ever owned and MS had to get stupid and instead of increasing their advertisements so more people would know about them, they decided to discontinue them.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

Winuser said:
IMO, MS should have skipped Windows 8.0 and waited until Windows 8.1 was ready. I'm still ticked off by what MS did to their Windows phones. The best phones I ever owned and MS had to get stupid and instead of increasing their advertisements so more people would know about them, they decided to discontinue them.

I also had one, it was pretty good. I was also peeved when they screwed up, mate

Having said that, nothing could ever… EVER replace my Moto Razr v3

Edwin · Aug 25, 2024

Winuser said:
The best phones I ever owned...

Still have my old Lumia 635, still boots!!!
It was a cheap piece of junk though!!!

Winuser · Aug 25, 2024

Edwin said:
Still have my old Lumia 635, still boots!!!
It was a cheap piece of junk though!!!

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For about $300.00 I could buy my Windows phone from AT&T and tell them to stick their contracts where the sun don't shine.

WAI · Aug 25, 2024

Edwin said:
Still have my old Lumia 635, still boots!!!
It was a cheap piece of junk though!!!

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It's so bad and it really made peeps mad about the whole touch screen UI of WiN8 when no one ever and even to this Day will own a monitor that is touch screen based! What was MS thinking

I mean most windows phone were crap anyway

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