Windows 24h2 to old pc's. Can i install it? And how?


This Rufus FAQ answer must be wrong, if your hand-picked AI says so!

This PC doesn't currenty meet Windows 11 system requirement
If you see the above prompt when trying to perform an in-place upgrade to Windows 11 24H2, with either a report of one, or both, of:
  • This PC's processor doesn't support a critical feature (PopCnt)
  • This PC's processor doesn't support a critical feature (SSE4.2)
Then it means that you won't be able to upgrade to Windows 11 24H2, period.

The requirement for modern CPU features is part of critical Windows 11 code, that Microsoft introduced with 24H2 and that cannot be bypassed.

You should also understand that there's only so much software developers, including myself and Microsoft, want to go to continue to support old platforms, when there exists new feature (in this case new CPU extensions) that can make the software better, and that there has to be a cutting point at which environments that do not support these new features have to be left behind.

The way it works, and this is what Microsoft did, is you announce public system requirements (which, in the case of Windows 11, officially required using a modern CPU with PopCnt and SSE4.2 from the very first release), while still providing an unofficial "grace period", during which you might be able to apply bypasses to continue to run the software on hardware that does not meet these requirements... until the day where the software developer enforces them. And 24H2 is when they made the requirement for a CPU that supports PopCnt and SSE4.2 come into actual effect.

In short: You shouldn't expect to be able to run Windows on hardware it wasn't designed for forever. You got granted the ability to do so for a few years, but it should be obvious that this was always going to end eventually, and that, at some stage, you do have to upgrade your hardware to benefit from modern features (most of which aren't simply "gimmicks", but elements that actually improve the software).

And, no, Rufus can not magically add bypasses that'll work around these restrictions.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7
I just had a fascinating chat online with Gemini AI and first asked him/her/it have they ever installed Windows 11 24H2 on a computer. I got the answer NO. :party:

I then asked Gemini "Will a computer with a processor that doesn't have sse4.2 be able to boot if windows 24h2 is installed?"

The long-winded answer was as follows.

Based on the information available, a computer with a processor that doesn't have SSE4.2 will likely encounter significant issues attempting to boot Windows 11 24H2. Here's a breakdown:

  • Increased System Requirements:
    • Windows 11 24H2 has introduced stricter CPU requirements, specifically mandating support for SSE4.2 and POPCNT CPU instructions.
    • This means that older processors lacking these instruction sets are no longer considered compatible.
  • Booting Problems:
    • According to reports, systems without these required CPU instructions are likely to experience issues with the Windows kernel, potentially leading to an unbootable system.
    • Therefore simply put, the machines will most likely not boot.
  • Implications:
    • This change has significant implications for users with older hardware, as they may find themselves unable to upgrade to the latest Windows 11 version.
    • Attempts to bypass these restrictions are likely to result in an unstable or non-functional system.
In essence, the SSE4.2 requirement is a hard requirement for Windows 11 24H2, and systems lacking it will most likely fail to boot.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26120.3291
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 2703
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC - Headphone Amplifier: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 24.12.1
    AOMEI Backupper Pro
    Dashlane password manager
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7 (96EU) 32.0.101.6078
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
i would just like to add, if i may.
i have Win 11 24H2 26100.3476 installed, working, running and updating in Gnome Boxes on Debian 13 Linux Testing.

best of luck, Steve ..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    .. Debian 'Testing' .. Win 11 24H2 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP 24" AiO
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 3200
    Graphics Card(s)
    Ryzen 7 5825u
    Sound Card
    RealTek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" HP AiO
    Hard Drives
    1TB WD Blue SN580 M2 SSD Partitioned.
    2x 1TB USB HDD External Backup/Storage.
    Internet Speed
    900MB full fibre
    Browser
    Firefox ESR & Thunderbird
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
  • Operating System
    Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell 13" Latitude 2017
    CPU
    i5 7200u
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel
    Sound Card
    Intel
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13" Dell Laptop
    Hard Drives
    250GB Crucial 2.5" SSD
    Mouse
    Gerenic 3 button
    Internet Speed
    WiFi only
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    ClamAV TK
    Other Info
    Mainly Open Source Software
This is from gemini ai from google.
I ask it if i can buypass the cpu sse4.2 at win 11 24h2 and answer me this:

It’s so very wrong.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
We have said that before, no need to ask AI, just read older posts. Yes, you can install 24H2 on a CPU without SSE4.2 if you use an older installer that didn't check this compatibility. For example using a hybrid 23H2/24H2 USB, check older posts what that is. BUT, at first restart the computer gets stuck at the Windows blue logo (Legacy BIOS installation) without the spinning curves. This is because the Windows Boot Loader tries to use a SSE4.2 instruction which the CPU doesn't understand and hangs. So you can't use the 24H2 installation, the only solution is to format the disk and install 23H2 or other OS that doesn't require SSE4.2 to run.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4

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