Solved boot up time

Joop · Mar 29, 2025

I have a 2 TB SSD drive, would the boot up time be faster if I had the C drive reduced in size?
It seems to me that this PC boots slower than my previous PC with Windows 10, despite having a faster processor and 16 cores opposed to the 4 in the old PC.
I did unable the start-up programs I could.
PS. It is not a big issue for me, I am just wondering.

Wynona · Mar 29, 2025

Joop said:
I have a 2 TB SSD drive, would the boot up time be faster if I had the C drive reduced in size?
It seems to me that this PC boots slower than my previous PC with Windows 10, despite having a faster processor and 16 cores opposed to the 4 in the old PC.
I did unable the start-up programs I could.
PS. It is not a big issue for me, I am just wondering.

This from copilot in Windows 11:

"The size of the SSD drive itself doesn't directly impact boot speed for Windows 11. What matters more is the type and quality of the SSD. For example, NVMe SSDs are faster than SATA SSDs, and newer SSDs tend to perform better than older ones. However, if the SSD is too small and becomes nearly full, it can slow down performance due to limited space for system operations.

If you're looking to optimize boot speed, ensure your SSD has enough free space, keep your drivers updated, and disable unnecessary startup programs. Let me know if you'd like tips on any of these!"

zbook · Mar 29, 2025

1) Please turn off Windows fast startup:

Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off fast startup in Windows 11. There are three startup modes in Windows: Cold (traditional) Wake-from-hibernation Fast Starting with Windows 8.x, the default shutdown and restart scenario has been updated and named fast startup. Fast startup...

www.elevenforum.com

2) Place the computer into clean boot:

Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 11 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts

This tutorial will show you how to perform a clean boot to start Windows 10 or Windows 11 using a minimal set of drivers and startup programs for troubleshooting application conflicts. Troubleshooting Windows can be a complex process due to the many different drivers, settings, and programs...

www.elevenforum.com

3) Open task manager > startup tab > post an image of the full window

Winuser · Mar 29, 2025

Joop said:
I have a 2 TB SSD drive, would the boot up time be faster if I had the C drive reduced in size?

To answer your question, the answer is No. Are you using the whole 2TB for your drive C:? Are your User files ( Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Music and Videos) on the SSD or on OneDrive? In File Explorer right click on them and then click on location. This will show you were they are located. If on the SSD you can make your system images smaller by partitioning the SSD and moving your User folders to the second partition. I hope your making system images to protect your Windows install and data from getting lost because of them getting corrupted or deleted. If you move your data to a second partition your User folder and data can and backed up separately and make your system images smaller. If you want to go this route, let us know if you need help and we will guide you on how to do it.

Joop · Mar 29, 2025

Wynona said:
This from copilot in Windows 11:

"The size of the SSD drive itself doesn't directly impact boot speed for Windows 11. What matters more is the type and quality of the SSD. For example, NVMe SSDs are faster than SATA SSDs, and newer SSDs tend to perform better than older ones. However, if the SSD is too small and becomes nearly full, it can slow down performance due to limited space for system operations.

If you're looking to optimize boot speed, ensure your SSD has enough free space, keep your drivers updated, and disable unnecessary startup programs. Let me know if you'd like tips on any of these!"

Thank you very much, at least I know that I don't have to fiddle around with partitioning.

zbook said:
1) Please turn off Windows fast startup:

Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to turn on or off fast startup in Windows 11. There are three startup modes in Windows: Cold (traditional) Wake-from-hibernation Fast Starting with Windows 8.x, the default shutdown and restart scenario has been updated and named fast startup. Fast startup...

www.elevenforum.com

2) Place the computer into clean boot:

Perform a Clean Boot in Windows 11 to Troubleshoot Software Conflicts

This tutorial will show you how to perform a clean boot to start Windows 10 or Windows 11 using a minimal set of drivers and startup programs for troubleshooting application conflicts. Troubleshooting Windows can be a complex process due to the many different drivers, settings, and programs...

www.elevenforum.com

3) Open task manager > startup tab > post an image of the full window

Joop · Mar 29, 2025

I hope I have the attachment in the correct post.
Furthermore, how can I give more points, each time I click again on the "thumbs up" the previous one goes away.
I am not skilled at all with the workings of a PC.

zbook · Mar 29, 2025

Open task manager > startup tab > post an image of the full window

(the image that was posted was cropped: please include corner to corner)

(The fulll box has the last BIOS boot time)

The image that was posted was not clean boot.

All entries are disabled for clean boot.

Clean boot is similar to walking into a room with a light switch.

Items in the room for clean boot are off and turned on when needed.

Joop · Mar 30, 2025

Winuser said:
To answer your question, the answer is No. Are you using the whole 2TB for your drive C:? Are your User files ( Desktop, Documents, Pictures, Music and Videos) on the SSD or on OneDrive? In File Explorer right click on them and then click on location. This will show you were they are located. If on the SSD you can make your system images smaller by partitioning the SSD and moving your User folders to the second partition. I hope your making system images to protect your Windows install and data from getting lost because of them getting corrupted or deleted. If you move your data to a second partition your User folder and data can and backed up separately and make your system images smaller. If you want to go this route, let us know if you need help and we will guide you on how to do it.

I had a software tech make a recovery USB of the system and backed up all my documents, I backed my pictures etc. on an external SSD.
Beyond that, I can't do much myself due to some dyslexia and memory loss from an accident.
This makes it extremely difficult for me to follow written or oral instructions.
I did one time managed to make an image from my old PC, but then I could not figure out how to look at the files later.
In all, I don't do a whole lot with my PC beyond e-mail, social media, games like crossword puzzles, card games and read web based news papers.
On my C drive it states 1.72 TB used from 1.86.

gunrunnerjohn · Mar 30, 2025

How slow is "slow"?

My recent Win11 build boots from power off in around 20 seconds. A few seconds of that is BIOS initialization it appears since that's what's on the screen until about 6-7 seconds in. How does that compare with your boot time? I have a pair of 2TB NVMe SSD's, and my Windows(BOOT) partition is 500GB. It seems similar to a Win10 system I also have here.

johnp · Mar 30, 2025

I have an old PC (Intel Core i7-4790 with Samsung 870 Evo 2 TB), and Windows 11 do boot slower than Windows 10 and Linux.

It looks like it loads the start up programs, one by one, and not simultaneously.

Joop · Mar 30, 2025

Sorry, I misstated the space used, on my C drive it states 1.72 TB free from 1.86 TB.

gunrunnerjohn said:
How slow is "slow"?

My recent Win11 build boots from power off in around 20 seconds. A few seconds of that is BIOS initialization it appears since that's what's on the screen until about 6-7 seconds in. How does that compare with your boot time? I have a pair of 2TB NVMe SSD's, and my Windows(BOOT) partition is 500GB. It seems similar to a Win10 system I also have here.

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Actually, I did not time the boot time, it just seemed slower than my old PC.

Gas · Mar 30, 2025

Joop said:
Sorry, I misstated the space used, on my C drive it states 1.72 TB free from 1.86 TB.

Actually, I did not time the boot time, it just seemed slower than my old PC.

You can see the boot time of your system in the startup apps in task manager at the right top.

gunrunnerjohn · Mar 30, 2025

Gas said:
You can see the boot time of your system in the startup apps in task manager at the right top.

Cool, I didn't realize that was there. :)

Joop · Mar 30, 2025

Gas said:
You can see the boot time of your system in the startup apps in task manager at the right top.

Unfortunately, I don't see it.

Kees · Mar 30, 2025

Please click "Startup apps" in the left column.

In my system it tells: Last BIOS-time: 14 seconds.
It's not fully clear to me if that's the total startup or just the BIOS start.
My impression is that the total startup time is longer (I have a lot of startup apps) but never timed it, because it is not that important to me...

Joop · Mar 30, 2025

Kees said:
Please click "Startup apps" in the left column.

In my system it tells: Last BIOS-time: 14 seconds.
It's not fully clear to me if that's the total startup or just the BIOS start.
My impression is that the total startup time is longer (I have a lot of startup apps) but never timed it, because it is not that important to me...

Thanks, it is 9.1 seconds. but that is when the computer was already booted up because all I did was click on the mouse. (?)

Kees · Mar 30, 2025

Kees said:
In my system it tells: Last BIOS-time: 14 seconds.

I have been timing it now: this is only the pure BIOS start, until (or just before) the Windwos logo appears.
The real startup time with all batches I run at start is about 1 - 1,5 minute!
I would have to re-install Windows, because I remember in the beginning it was a lot shorter, but don't want to do that in a good functioning system.
Having the habit to switch on the PC as one of the first things in the morning and do some other tasks after that, I really am not very much bothered by a few minutes startup time. But that will be different for any person...

Joop · Mar 30, 2025

Kees said:
I have been timing it now: this is only the pure BIOS start, until (or just before) the Windwos logo appears.
The real startup time with all batches I run at start is about 1 - 1,5 minute!
I would have to re-install Windows, because I remember in the beginning it was a lot shorter, but don't want to do that in a good functioning system.
Having the habit to switch on the PC as one of the first things in the morning and do some other tasks after that, I really am not very much bothered by a few minutes startup time. But that will be different for any person...

out of curiosity, I am going to shut down and start again.

Joop · Mar 30, 2025

This time it states Last bootup time 8.1 seconds.
However, I think it was longer than that.

gunrunnerjohn · Mar 30, 2025

I shutdown and started.

Taskmanager BIOS TIme: 14.7
Total boot time from Power On to desktop: 27.2

Total time includes typing in my PIN, probably a second or so. Looks like I have a slow BIOS.

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