Drivers after a fresh install of Windows 11

RedLad · Feb 17, 2023

An update. After plugging in my WiFi antenna and connecting to the Internet. I tried running them teo drivers again, but had no luck.

Then a minute or so later the screen went black and came back and now the Microsoft Basic Adapter is gone and there's now one called AMDRadeon (TM) Graphics.

Also, the Unlnown device under Other devices has disappeared.

Hazel123 · Feb 18, 2023

Unknown device is usually something like an sd card reader I tend to find. If you have one.

It looks like the graphics driver hasn’t installed properly if the ms one is still there. It should replace the Ms one I think. Can you uninstall the nvidia again then install it via device manager instead of clicking on the file to install it. That way you would go to the listing for the MS driver and click on update driver - select on thes computer - in the browse section select the nvidia drive and let it install that way. Then it should replace the ms driver.

Scott · Feb 18, 2023

RedLad said:
It wouldn't install the WiFi or LAN drivers for some reason. Just no response. I opened the folder, clicked AsusSetup - absolutely nothing happens. Same for the LAN. Why is that?

The exact same thing happened to me when I installed my new motherboard. Chipset, Lan and Wifi drivers would not run. Tried Setup, AsusSetup, run as Admin, nothing worked. Lucky for me I have a BD-RE drive and was able to use the CD that came with the board.

Check out the The Intel Driver & Support Assistant. It may give you updated Lan and WiFi drivers.

Intel® Driver & Support Assistant

The Intel® Driver & Support Assistant helps keeps your system up-to-date by detecting when updates are available.

www.intel.com

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

Hi,

Maybe you missed it @Hazel123 but in post #61 I mentioned it now being AMD Radeon (TM) Graphics. I wonder is this the integrated graphics that my CPU has?

Thanks @Scott, I'll have a look at that if it doesn't sort itself out.

I've two questions:

1. Does it matter that I shut down and left the PC in this state and haven't done any Windows Updates? That won't damage/interrupt the whole process will it?? It was late so I shut it down.

Anyway, hopefully I can just resume this in a few hours and don't have to start it all again.

2. I still have the power connectors unplugged from my two sata drives. I'd rather leave them out of the situation before I get all of this ironed out, Windows Updates done and a Macrium backup done before I reconnect them.

Would that be OK/safe to do?

Scott · Feb 18, 2023

You'll be fine shutting down and resuming later.

pparks1 · Feb 18, 2023

I actually tested Windows 11 on my desktop computer tonight. I'm still running Windows 10 full time, but setup a native VHDX boot and am running Windows on that to see how it works with my hardware. Happy to see it just activated straight up for me with my digital license on my account

I'm running a Ryzen 9-5900x, on a ROG Strix X570-E gaming board, with an EVGA 3080. I installed Windows 11 22H2 from the media creation site. Upon first boot, absolutely everything was okay in Device Manager, not a single exclamation point.

I installed the AMD x570 chipset drivers right from AMD, and I installed the latest release of Ryzen Master. Ran Windows Updates. All seems just fine. Pretty easy and straight forward setup.

cereberus · Feb 18, 2023

pparks1 said:
I actually tested Windows 11 on my desktop computer tonight. I'm still running Windows 10 full time, but setup a native VHDX boot and am running Windows on that to see how it works with my hardware. Happy to see it just activated straight up for me with my digital license on my account

I'm running a Ryzen 9-5900x, on a ROG Strix X570-E gaming board, with an EVGA 3080. I installed Windows 11 22H2 from the media creation site. Upon first boot, absolutely everything was okay in Device Manager, not a single exclamation point.

I installed the AMD x570 chipset drivers right from AMD, and I installed the latest release of Ryzen Master. Ran Windows Updates. All seems just fine. Pretty easy and straight forward setup.

Yeah - in general Windows does a good job. The main area it falls over is ridiculously with nvme drives needing Intel IRST drivers. You would think by now they are part of the standard MS isos - NVMEs are hardly new kid on the block any more!

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

pparks1 said:
I actually tested Windows 11 on my desktop computer tonight. I'm still running Windows 10 full time, but setup a native VHDX boot and am running Windows on that to see how it works with my hardware. Happy to see it just activated straight up for me with my digital license on my account

I'm running a Ryzen 9-5900x, on a ROG Strix X570-E gaming board, with an EVGA 3080. I installed Windows 11 22H2 from the media creation site. Upon first boot, absolutely everything was okay in Device Manager, not a single exclamation point.

I installed the AMD x570 chipset drivers right from AMD, and I installed the latest release of Ryzen Master. Ran Windows Updates. All seems just fine. Pretty easy and straight forward setup.

Sounds good. So you have some kind of setup where you can choose whether you boot into 10 or 11, nice.

I think I'm all good now. Actually had to install Windows though twice haha. First time I 'disabled' Armoury Crate in the BIOS, I didn't know you had to hit F10 to save the setting. So got to the desktop and up popped the Armoury Crate window. So had to install it all again.

Two other sata drives reconnected. Windows Updates all done. Second Nvme drive also working too.

Still couldn't install them two drivers though, but I can get online so I may not even need them. Is the LAN driver from ASUS only needed if I'm using a wired connection?

If I don't install the WiFi one, does that mean my motherboard WiFi won't work to its full speed potential?

I'll post some screenshots of my Device Manager when I am back at the PC.

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

Here is my Device Manager. That is all good, yes?

Also if someone could take a look at my questions in post #68, that would be great thanks.

Also for the Macrium Reflect image @Ghot said to do. Do I just click on the C: drive and 'Image this disk'?

Ghot · Feb 18, 2023

RedLad said:
Here is my Device Manager. That is all good, yes?

Also if someone could take a look at my questions in post #68, that would be great thanks.

Also for the Macrium Reflect image @Ghot said to do. Do I just click on the C: drive and 'Image this disk'?
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You click on: Create an image of the partitions required to backup and restore Windows.

Quickie guide...

Macrium Reflect, AOMEI Backupper and Hasleo Backup Suite - GUIDES

How to use backup software... 1. When everything is working perfectly... make a full Windows backup. 2. Then, if something breaks... restore from the latest backup. 3. Then... try "whatever you were doing" a different way. If it still breaks Windows, then... go to step #2. 4. Repeat...

www.elevenforum.com

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

Ghot said:
You click on: Create an image of the partitions required to backup and restore Windows.

Quickie guide...

Macrium Reflect, AOMEI Backupper and Hasleo Backup Suite - GUIDES

How to use backup software... 1. When everything is working perfectly... make a full Windows backup. 2. Then, if something breaks... restore from the latest backup. 3. Then... try "whatever you were doing" a different way. If it still breaks Windows, then... go to step #2. 4. Repeat...

www.elevenforum.com

Thanks for the guide. Yeah I just did another one there with that method you mentioned. Looks like the first backup I did it is the same, just an alternate way of creating it.

As for my Device Manager - what do you reckon, is it all OK?

I should be OK to proceed with doing any Windows personalization and installing all of my programs now yes?

Ghot · Feb 18, 2023

RedLad said:
Thanks for the guide. Yeah I just did another one there with that method you mentioned. Looks like the first backup I did it is the same, just an alternate way of creating it.

As for my Device Manager - what do you reckon, is it all OK?

I should be OK to proceed with doing any Windows personalization and installing all of my programs now yes?

They're only the same if you used the entire disk for the Windows install.
For example, on mine, I only used a bit less than half the disk for my entire install.

So when I choose: Create an image of the partitions required to backup and restore Windows.
It only chooses the partitions needed to boot Windows.
The D: and E: partitions on mine, have nothing to do with Windows, so it doesn't check mark those partitions.

Get in the habit of always choosing: Create an image of the partitions required to backup and restore Windows.
That way, if you ever decide to partition the 1TB drive so Windows and it's required partitions DON'T take the whole drive, you'll still be OK.

Short version: Do it like the picture guide UNTIL it's second nature. THEN, you can experiment with other ways.

Remember: The smaller the Windows partition(s)... the smaller and faster your backups will be.
At default settings the backups will be 1/2 the size of the Windows partitions.

Look at the SIZE of my backups...

In November and December, I still had one game on my Windows drive. Then I moved it to a storage drive.

Backup: 2:20 (min/sec)
Restore: 1:30

So... I can not only make backups, I can also (because they're so fast), use them as a tool.
I can test some iffy software, and if I don't want to keep it... instead of uninstalling (and leaving remnants), I can just restore from a backup (which makes it like I never installed it). BECAUSE they are so fast, it's not a pain.

Just something to think about.

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

Ghot said:
They're only the same if you used the entire disk for the Windows install.
For example, on mine, I only used a bit less than half the disk for my entire install.

So when I choose: Create an image of the partitions required to backup and restore Windows.
It only chooses the partitions needed to boot Windows.
The D: and E: partitions on mine, have nothing to do with Windows, so it doesn't check mark those partitions.

View attachment 53119

Get in the habit of always choosing: Create an image of the partitions required to backup and restore Windows.
That way, if you ever decide to partition the 1TB drive so Windows and it's required partitions DON'T take the whole drive, you'll still be OK.

Short version: Do it like the picture guide UNTIL it's second nature. THEN, you can experiment with other ways.

Remember: The smaller the Windows partition(s)... the smaller and faster your backups will be.
At default settings the backups will be 1/2 the size of the Windows partitions.

Look at the SIZE of my backups...

View attachment 53120

In November and December, I still had one game on my Windows drive. Then I moved it to a storage drive.

Backup: 2:20 (min/sec)
Restore: 1:30

OK, I will use the button 'Create an image of the partitions required to backup and restore Windows' from now on.

When I eventually have all of my programs etc. installed, this will backup the lot of them too if anything ever goes wrong and then I will be easily able to restore it all? I always install my programs to C: by the way.

Now for the bit you didn't answer in my question!

My Device Manager screengrab in post #69 - what do you reckon, is it all OK?

If you think it is good - I am firing ahead with my customization/themes etc. then programs!

Ghot · Feb 18, 2023

RedLad said:
Now for the bit you didn't answer in my question!

My Device Manager screengrab in post #69 - what do you reckon, is it all OK?

I didn't answer that, cause you already know the answer.

No yellow exclamation points in Device Manager... you're good to go.

But even that's not important, now that you use backups. Once you have a backup made... anything goes wrong... you have a time machine (restore), to go back and do it right.

I can see it's time for this picture again...

I'm not trying to be a smart a**. I'm trying to explain that yes, you got a hammer (backup software).
Yes, you can drive and pull nails with it (do backups and restores).

BUT, you can also...

1. Open locks with it.
2. Pound out a dent with it.
3. Chip concrete with it.
4. Use it with a chisel to shape wood.
5. Etc., etc., etc.

Now that you have backup software, think how you can use it for other things.

Btw, when I say hammer, I mean a real hammer...

Not one of these...

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

Ghot said:
I didn't answer that, cause you already know the answer.
No yellow exclamation points in Device Manager... you're good to go.

But even that's not important, now that you use backups. Once you have a backup made... anything goes wrong... you have a time machine (restore), to go back and do it right.

I can see it's time for this picture again...

View attachment 53126

I'm not trying to be a smart a**. I'm trying to explain that yes, you got a hammer (backup software).
Yes, you can drive and pull nails with it (do backups and restores).

BUT, you can also...

1. Open locks with it.
2. Pound out a dent with it.
3. Chip concrete with it.
4. Use it with a chisel to shape wood.
5. Etc., etc., etc.

Now that you have backup software, think how you can use it for other things.

No, not at all. I wouldn't have asked twice otherwise sure. It's more that second display adapter I had my reservations about. Anyway, we'll call it good!

That's a good picture yes indeed.

I'm a 3D artist, so I like your 5 part explanation of what it can be used for :)

Cheers!

Ghot · Feb 18, 2023

RedLad said:
It's more that second display adapter I had my reservations about. Anyway, we'll call it good!

Your CPU has an IGP (Integrated Graphics Processor).
A video chip built into your CPU.
That's why you see Radeon Graphics and the 3080 Ti.

But you know that too. :/

pparks1 · Feb 18, 2023

RedLad said:
Sounds good. So you have some kind of setup where you can choose whether you boot into 10 or 11, nice.

Yes, it's easy and anybody can do it. You basically create a virtual hard drive file (vhdx) using disk manager and put it on your hard drive somewhere. You then use a dism command to install windows 11 from an iso onto that virtual hard drive file. Then you issue on bcdedit edit command and it adds a new entry into your bootloader so when you boot up, it loads the 2 entry loader and gives you a choice.

Literally can do this from start to finish in about 5 minutes.

When you are done, you do a bcdedit remove command and remove 11 from your menu and it goes back to exactly how it was before and you can delete the .vhdx file.

pparks1 · Feb 18, 2023

cereberus said:
Yeah - in general Windows does a good job. The main area it falls over is ridiculously with nvme drives needing Intel IRST drivers. You would think by now they are part of the standard MS isos - NVMEs are hardly new kid on the block any more!

I haven't had to do anything with any of the 4 machines I have that run nvme drives. They have all worked without any special drivers.

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

Ghot said:
Your CPU has an IGP (Integrated Graphics Processor).
A video chip built into your CPU.
That's why you see Radeon Graphics and the 3080 Ti.

But you know that too. :/

Haha you're not letting go easy! I wasn't 100% sure if that was it. This stuff is new to me. Computers 101 stuff.

Now I have to get to putting this beast of a CPU through its paces and to good use!

RedLad · Feb 18, 2023

pparks1 said:
Yes, it's easy and anybody can do it. You basically create a virtual hard drive file (vhdx) using disk manager and put it on your hard drive somewhere. You then use a dism command to install windows 11 from an iso onto that virtual hard drive file. Then you issue on bcdedit edit command and it adds a new entry into your bootloader so when you boot up, it loads the 2 entry loader and gives you a choice.

Literally can do this from start to finish in about 5 minutes.

When you are done, you do a bcdedit remove command and remove 11 from your menu and it goes back to exactly how it was before and you can delete the .vhdx file.

That's really interesting, cheers for explaining it.

I had actually instructed the person who built the machine to put Windows 10 on it as I was unsure if all of my programs would work properly on 11. He acknowledged that and agreed to put 10 on.

What does he go and do? Just installs 11 without even telling me. Pretty bizarre behavior. I couldn't believe it when I arrived to collect it and said OK I'd give it a shot and if it didn't work out that he'd have to revert to 10. But so far, so good I really like Windows 11.

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