For all the people who believe aditional Antivirus software, is not necessary..


WD these days is more than sufficient for domestic users. You are more liable to get scammed than be attacked by a Virus these days. Pro hackers either now go for "de-stabalising" National infrastructure and services or just scrape publically available data from social media etc websites.

Another potential source is that anybody running a Credit Check on people can get the number of Credit Cards they hold and the issuing financial institution even if you can't get the actual account. (Data is supplied by a load of these Credit Reference agencies such as Experian etc -- which really have far too much power these days). From there hackers can then get actual card numbers which are often sold in lots of 1,000 in places like the bacstreets of Chennai where a lot of Offshored I.T exists.

I'd be 100% more careful about getting scammed than getting a computer infected these days.

Cheers
jimbo
Thanks Jimbo. I try to take sensible precautions when it comes to avoiding scams and such. I keep an eye out what’s going on in the news and using common sense.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro - version 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 6 Core AM5 5.3GHz CPU
    Motherboard
    MSI MAG B650 GAMING PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith 32GB (16GBx2) CL30,1.35V UDIMM 6000MHz DDR5 RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce RTX 4060 Ventus 2X Black 8G OC Graphics Card
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus ROG Strix 32in HDR VA 180Hz USB Type-C FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Silicon Power 1TB P34A60 Gen3x4 TLC R/W up to 2,200/1,600 MB/s PCIe M.2 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    MSI 750W MAG A750GL 80+ Gold PCIe 5 ATX 3.0 Modular Power Supply
    Case
    SilverStone Fara R1 Pro V2 Tempered Glass ATX Case - Black
    Cooling
    Wraith Stealth Cooler
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes
**Back in 2005 i was really reckless in terms of my PC security, not anymore though. 2005 i followed links from so called friends in a PC Game, listened to his suggestion to open the files to see if My Test of WIndows Live OneCare would block the Infected files, instead severely infected my AMD Athlon XP 2500 system so bad shop had to rebuild it totally with replacement downgraded parts just to have a working system, Never making a mistake like that again**
Rare is the day when hardware needs to be replaced due to an infection. Even root kits can be eliminated with the right software. What is really nasty is when the issuer of the hardware also supplies the malware. Lenovo got caught twice doing this, were convicted of it twice, and still they operate as though they did no wrong. The evils of corporate power seem to know no bounds.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Rare is the day when hardware needs to be replaced due to an infection. Even root kits can be eliminated with the right software. What is really nasty is when the issuer of the hardware also supplies the malware. Lenovo got caught twice doing this, were convicted of it twice, and still they operate as though they did no wrong. The evils of corporate power seem to know no bounds.
Well this was custom built system from local place at the time, AMD Athlon Xp 2500+ with Ati Radeon card that was out at the time, on Abit NFS Motherboard at time.

Took it for attempted repairs after serious infection incident to another local shop (different from original builder) well got it back, still kept crashing, so in the end, ended up with Sempron 1.6ghz Processor, ATI Radeon different card, Seagate hard drive, on a Gigabyte Motherboard.

Never making that mistake again
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 26100.2314
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PreBuilt
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7700X
    Motherboard
    MSI B650 VC WIfi
    Memory
    32GB DDR 5 RGB 5600Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon 7800XT
    Sound Card
    Onboard Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus VG245H
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 1TB Boot NVMe
    Samsung 860 Evo 1TB-Game SSD


    External
    Western Digital Elements 500GB
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB Blue
    Western Digital My Passport 2TB Red
    Toshiba 2TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 8TB in External Enclosure
    Seagate 1TB Portable USB 3 External Drive
    Western Digital My Book 8TB (Primary Backup drive)
    Western Digital Black 4TB In External Enclosure
    PSU
    750 Watt High Power
    Case
    Lian Li Lan Cool 216 ARGB Airflow
    Cooling
    2 160MM Front, 1 140MM Rear Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech G513
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 X
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1000Mb/20 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Premium
    Other Info
    UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM 2.0, Acronis True Image 2025
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Omen 15_ce019dx
    CPU
    Intel I7 7700H
    Motherboard
    OEM HP Omen Laptop Motherboard
    Memory
    8GB DDR 4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD 630 and Nvidia Geforce 1050TI
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6 Laptop Display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    128GB NvMe Boot Drive
    1TB Hitachi Sata Hard drive
    PSU
    Laptop PSU
    Case
    Laptop Case
    Cooling
    OEM Cooling
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Keyboard
    OEM Laptop Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    Gigabit 1000 Download/20 Upload
    Browser
    MS Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender & Malwarebytes Premium
As a cyber security dude, I'll never accept, free antivirus/anti malware solutions, will be as effective, as solutions, with required R&D budget, and priced accordingly.
This days, with so many black hat hacking communities - a 9th grader testing out his new found hacking passion - could give you a run for the money (mocking old school "professionals" who are not particularly gifted/talented cyber-security wise - keeps getting easier and easier). Best security this days is... not becoming a target. Seriously, kids who've grown with a phone in their hands since the age of 3 - and developed a passion for the way tech works (both hardware and software wise) - are in a league of their own - even as teenagers. The more we age (and i'm talking less than 30+ that's when most people are already to old - to keep up with younger generations) - the less we can keep up with the virtual revolution. Quite ironic, considering the many real world lines of work - where older age can be defining for a mastery (reaching that place of wisdom - when we can past down the torch to younger generations) - while the virtual world works in reverse... where learning and up-to date knowledge is always easier to obtain... online. That is... if we're talking about the advanced stuff (again, up-to date - even A.I. assisted black hat hacking).

But hey, even average cyber-security knowledge is still good enough vs average (or below average) cyber-criminals. And thus, we can still pass down the basics for Windows security. Let's face it, 95% of Windows users will get bored reading "technical stuff (even tho - that's just scratching the home user content surface)". And that percentage represents the beginners. For average users - who yearn for something above the basics - a Hardware Firewall could be a nice touch. If big spender - Firewalla would be a top tier hassle free choice. If interested in learning a thing or two at a reduced cost - Pfsense/Opensense would be the way to go (imo). Then there's the Linux distributions - a good way to recycle older systems (debian based if looking for a user friendly touch - or Arch is struggling with low self esteem - and don't get me wrong - it's actually a nice touch for a tailored experience - but in the Linux community - it's quite infamous as a Ego booster). Tho, again... even with Linux - best way to secure it is.... not becoming a target. After all - it's the lack of commercial popularity why it was rarely tageted. And if paranoid (that is - not really a person of interest - but still thinking someone is out to get you) - Qubes OS can help with that.

As for Windows Defender... that's like an umbrella from Walmart: good enough for the usual rainy days - just don't expect it to hold during a tornado. Same can be said about BitDefender - which sure, it's sturdier - but mess with the wrong kids - and they'll brake it just the same. Despite the incident from last year - CrowdStrike's Kernel Level module - is why it stands out as a superior product (could help even with the large number of Intel systems which never got a IME firmware update covering latest vulnerabilities). For people who afford it - might be worth it, but for a large majority - it's probably not. Nor is it wise to have average security expectations from the majority of tech gadgets users (be it Computer, Smartphone, etc).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WinDOS 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
This days, with so many black hat hacking communities - a 9th grader testing out his new found hacking passion - could give you a run for the money (mocking old school "professionals" who are not particularly gifted/talented cyber-security wise - keeps getting easier and easier). Best security this days is... not becoming a target. Seriously, kids who've grown with a phone in their hands since the age of 3 - and developed a passion for the way tech works (both hardware and software wise) - are in a league of their own - even as teenagers. The more we age (and i'm talking less than 30+ that's when most people are already to old - to keep up with younger generations) - the less we can keep up with the virtual revolution. Quite ironic, considering the many real world lines of work - where older age can be defining for a mastery (reaching that place of wisdom - when we can past down the torch to younger generations) - while the virtual world works in reverse... where learning and up-to date knowledge is always easier to obtain... online. That is... if we're talking about the advanced stuff (again, up-to date - even A.I. assisted black hat hacking).

But hey, even average cyber-security knowledge is still good enough vs average (or below average) cyber-criminals. And thus, we can still pass down the basics for Windows security. Let's face it, 95% of Windows users will get bored reading "technical stuff (even tho - that's just scratching the home user content surface)". And that percentage represents the beginners. For average users - who yearn for something above the basics - a Hardware Firewall could be a nice touch. If big spender - Firewalla would be a top tier hassle free choice. If interested in learning a thing or two at a reduced cost - Pfsense/Opensense would be the way to go (imo). Then there's the Linux distributions - a good way to recycle older systems (debian based if looking for a user friendly touch - or Arch is struggling with low self esteem - and don't get me wrong - it's actually a nice touch for a tailored experience - but in the Linux community - it's quite infamous as a Ego booster). Tho, again... even with Linux - best way to secure it is.... not becoming a target. After all - it's the lack of commercial popularity why it was rarely tageted. And if paranoid (that is - not really a person of interest - but still thinking someone is out to get you) - Qubes OS can help with that.

As for Windows Defender... that's like an umbrella from Walmart: good enough for the usual rainy days - just don't expect it to hold during a tornado. Same can be said about BitDefender - which sure, it's sturdier - but mess with the wrong kids - and they'll brake it just the same. Despite the incident from last year - CrowdStrike's Kernel Level module - is why it stands out as a superior product (could help even with the large number of Intel systems which never got a IME firmware update covering latest vulnerabilities). For people who afford it - might be worth it, but for a large majority - it's probably not. Nor is it wise to have average security expectations from the majority of tech gadgets users (be it Computer, Smartphone, etc).
But I thought TPM2 was going to fix all of that! :oops:

I liked Qubes but I could never seem to get it to work online. Eventually I disposed of it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
I had the same thing happen to me with my AT&T account. If I'm not mistaken it was around the same time. as you. I found out when I tried to call my wife. I kept getting a message that her number was no longer in service. I guess N.Y. is/was an easy place to illegally buy cell phones. Now to access my account or update my phones I have to use a security code.

Did ATT punish you for their mistake by requiring you to send a notarized letter in order to buy a phone online or else go to the store with id?

It was probably the same crime gang that got our info off the dark web. I figure they fenced the phones on ebay. I can't believe Verizon would send 4 iphones to NY when I live at the other end of the country. The rep must have been working on commission lol

If that security code is the code printed on your bill you should call and insist on a password. Otherwise someone could steal you bill from the mailbox, call ATT and request a new sim card, spoof your phone to get 2fa texts and take over your online accounts.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite X WIFI7
    Memory
    Corsair 128GB (4x32GB) DDR5 5600MT/S CL40 Memory Kit
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    43 inch 4k
    Screen Resolution
    2k (2560 x 1440)
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK 1TB NVMe SSD with Heatsink 7300 mb/s
    PSU
    MEG Ai1300P PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 PSU 1300 watts
    Case
    Phanteks (PH-ES614PTG_BK) Enthoo Pro ATX , Tempered Glass, Integrated RGB Lighting
    Cooling
    ENERMAX LIQMAXFLO 360mm A-RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler
    Keyboard
    Wireless logitech
    Mouse
    Wireless logitech
Rare is the day when hardware needs to be replaced due to an infection. Even root kits can be eliminated with the right software. What is really nasty is when the issuer of the hardware also supplies the malware. Lenovo got caught twice doing this, were convicted of it twice, and still they operate as though they did no wrong. The evils of corporate power seem to know no bounds.

What??? I bought a lenovo on ebay and it came with a virus. I contacted the seller to tell him. He said he used some bulk driver finder/installer app because he sells a lot of laptops. You mean that virus could have come from lenovo?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite X WIFI7
    Memory
    Corsair 128GB (4x32GB) DDR5 5600MT/S CL40 Memory Kit
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    43 inch 4k
    Screen Resolution
    2k (2560 x 1440)
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK 1TB NVMe SSD with Heatsink 7300 mb/s
    PSU
    MEG Ai1300P PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 PSU 1300 watts
    Case
    Phanteks (PH-ES614PTG_BK) Enthoo Pro ATX , Tempered Glass, Integrated RGB Lighting
    Cooling
    ENERMAX LIQMAXFLO 360mm A-RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler
    Keyboard
    Wireless logitech
    Mouse
    Wireless logitech

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
  • Operating System
    Linux Mint 21.2 (Cinnamon)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC8i5BEH
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8259U CPU @ 2.30GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Plus 655
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
Did ATT punish you for their mistake by requiring you to send a notarized letter in order to buy a phone online or else go to the store with id?

It was probably the same crime gang that got our info off the dark web. I figure they fenced the phones on ebay. I can't believe Verizon would send 4 iphones to NY when I live at the other end of the country. The rep must have been working on commission lol

If that security code is the code printed on your bill you should call and insist on a password. Otherwise someone could steal you bill from the mailbox, call ATT and request a new sim card, spoof your phone to get 2fa texts and take over your online accounts.
I don't remember having to write a letter. As I recall ,everything was done over the phone. I did have to answer some question to prove who I was. I think the last four numbers of my S.S. number was one of the questions. The case was sent to their fraud department for investigation. My case did get settled and they took the charges for the two iPhones and one iPad off my bill. They had me make up my own security number and they added it to my account. If the number is on my bill I never saw it. Not that I looked, I just look at the amount due. With the security number I have to use it any time I do any business with them or access my online account. I think they got my info when I bought a new phone from one of their stores. I'm thinking someone over heard me give the sales person my info or the sales person was the one that did it. The reason I'm I'm thinking that that's when it happened is because it was a few months later when it happened. About 5 or six years ago my wife had someone try to file a tax return with her S.S. number. I don't know what was involved to get it straightened out. H&R Block took care of it. Ever since then the IRS sends her a pin number she has to use so we can file our taxes.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I don't remember having to write a letter. As I recall ,everything was done over the phone. I did have to answer some question to prove who I was. I think the last four numbers of my S.S. number was one of the questions. The case was sent to their fraud department for investigation. My case did get settled and they took the charges for the two iPhones and one iPad off my bill. They had me make up my own security number and they added it to my account. If the number is on my bill I never saw it. Not that I looked, I just look at the amount due. With the security number I have to use it any time I do any business with them or access my online account. About 5 or six years ago my wife had someone try to file a tax return with her S.S. number. I don't know what was involved to get it straightened out. H&R Block took care of it. Ever since then the IRS sends her a pin number she has to use so we can file our taxes.

Oh ok that number should be the same as a password, although maybe a little harder to remember.

I caught it instantly because my phone stopped working, so it never made it to my bill, and of course they didn't charge me. But a year or two later when I wanted to buy a new phone they wouldn't let me. They said the only way I can buy a phone online is to send a notarized letter proving who I am. Either than to go in the store and prove who I am. I didn't like having to jump through extra hoops when I didn't do anything wrong.

That IRS thing happened to dad. The IRS notices if a return isn't similar to returns filed in previous years, so they called him to ask him if he had filed. He was lucky that he doesn't file normalish w2 returns like most people, otherwise the IRS considers the first return they receive as the valid one and the 2nd return filer has to prove the 1st one is wrong. So, file your returns early to beat the imposters lol
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite X WIFI7
    Memory
    Corsair 128GB (4x32GB) DDR5 5600MT/S CL40 Memory Kit
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    43 inch 4k
    Screen Resolution
    2k (2560 x 1440)
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK 1TB NVMe SSD with Heatsink 7300 mb/s
    PSU
    MEG Ai1300P PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 PSU 1300 watts
    Case
    Phanteks (PH-ES614PTG_BK) Enthoo Pro ATX , Tempered Glass, Integrated RGB Lighting
    Cooling
    ENERMAX LIQMAXFLO 360mm A-RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler
    Keyboard
    Wireless logitech
    Mouse
    Wireless logitech
But I thought TPM2 was going to fix all of that! :oops:

I liked Qubes but I could never seem to get it to work online. Eventually I disposed of it.
TPM is old outdated technology --besides building a lot of this stuff into hardware only encourages "planned obsolescence" when a new version of an OS or an update requires newer incompatible hardware.

With the sheer volume of money big companies like Ms have they should devote more time and effort into making their OS'es really robust. I still think for most domestic users provided they apply the regular updates, are careful what they download i.e don't accept any special extra offers, use dubious free VPN's, download pirated material etc and make sure the link you are downloading from really is the correct link and not something else and be careful with emails and data you give out on social media then WD is perfectly OK.

Would be interesting to see actually how many people on these forums had a computer infection and details of exactly what they were doing on their computer before it became infected. Only those just running WD is of interest here. I'm sure the numbers (assuming people were honest) would ve quite small and if no pirate sites etc were used probably about ZERO.

Sometimes this security stuff is just too overblown. Corporate and Infrastructure stuff -- totally different ballgame - but domestic users and "Mom and Pop" type of computers !!!!

Cheers
jimbo
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Would be interesting to see actually how many people on these forums had a computer infection and details of exactly what they were doing on their computer before it became infected. Only those just running WD is of interest here.

Consider me the control group lol

I've used win95, 98, me, 2k, xp, 7, 11 and have been online since 1997ish. I've never run AV software, except now only because my pc is so overpowered, but usually I consider AV much worse than the virus.

I've had 2 infections in 30ish years. One in 2005 from installing some dubious cracked software that I should have known better. It wasn't too bad to clean up with instructions I found online. And then again sometime around 2010-12 from an online ad. Some free online virus scanner spotted it and fixed it uneventfully. I don't remember much of the specifics. Ever since I've been running adblockers.

If I've had anything else, I couldn't tell and no online scanner could ever see it.

I don't run cracked software (anymore), don't go to shady sites, don't open attachments from strange people or strange attachments from contacts, pay attention to URLs, and basically just try to use common sense.

But now, everything windows 11 offers is turned on, because why not? And maybe I've rolled the dice long enough.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite X WIFI7
    Memory
    Corsair 128GB (4x32GB) DDR5 5600MT/S CL40 Memory Kit
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    43 inch 4k
    Screen Resolution
    2k (2560 x 1440)
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK 1TB NVMe SSD with Heatsink 7300 mb/s
    PSU
    MEG Ai1300P PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 PSU 1300 watts
    Case
    Phanteks (PH-ES614PTG_BK) Enthoo Pro ATX , Tempered Glass, Integrated RGB Lighting
    Cooling
    ENERMAX LIQMAXFLO 360mm A-RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler
    Keyboard
    Wireless logitech
    Mouse
    Wireless logitech
But I thought TPM2 was going to fix all of that!
It's just a chip covering some security improvements - available at the time of its development and release, but technological advancements (raw computing power - in particular - not to mention A.I.) - are working against it. It's not like it was meant to last (long term) - quite the opposite. More useful as a Marketing gimmick (it's why was included as requirement in Windows 11) - to sell hardware (using this chip / also, not just for personal/home computers) and Software (Windows 11 - but also used by kernel level drivers). That's not to say it's useless (you do need it - if you're using BitLocker, the biometric features and integrity check). But quite far from "fixing all of that (or being as reliable - as was marketed)!" :)

Wouldn't be surprised if Windows 12 will require TPM 3.0 - for same reason (to sell Windows 12 and latest hardware including it). The key word for TPM was always "improves (better than nothing)!" As an alternative - and more recently Apple is using "Secure Enclave (the equivalent of TPM 2.0)" with their latest hardware - and yet - even without it Apple products were not less secure than Windows. Same can be said about Linux distributions (if not especially) - which is still preferred by many industry giants over Windows - for Servers. To be fair, they have both end-point security (like the infamous CrowdStrike) and also tasked to cover the latest vulnerabilities - as part of the job (not relying on the OEM for a firmware release - like home users).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WinDOS 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    CPU
    Intel & AMD
    Memory
    SO-DIMM SK Hynix 15.8 GB Dual-Channel DDR4-2666 (2 x 8 GB) 1329MHz (19-19-19-43)
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia RTX 2060 6GB Mobile GPU (TU106M)
    Sound Card
    Onbord Realtek ALC1220
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung PM981 NVMe PCIe M.2 512GB / 1x Seagate Expansion ST1000LM035 1TB
Wouldn't be surprised if Windows 12 will require TPM 3.0 - for same reason (to sell Windows 12 and latest hardware including it)

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite X WIFI7
    Memory
    Corsair 128GB (4x32GB) DDR5 5600MT/S CL40 Memory Kit
    Graphics Card(s)
    Onboard
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    43 inch 4k
    Screen Resolution
    2k (2560 x 1440)
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK 1TB NVMe SSD with Heatsink 7300 mb/s
    PSU
    MEG Ai1300P PCIE 5 & ATX 3.0 PSU 1300 watts
    Case
    Phanteks (PH-ES614PTG_BK) Enthoo Pro ATX , Tempered Glass, Integrated RGB Lighting
    Cooling
    ENERMAX LIQMAXFLO 360mm A-RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler
    Keyboard
    Wireless logitech
    Mouse
    Wireless logitech
I use Bitlocker whole drive encryption on my Acer with the TPM enabled in Bitlocker. If I remove the drive and install a blank drive, the computer still demands the Bitlocker password. This renders the computer useless if stolen. There may be a way around that, I don't know.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 1760 UA92
    CPU
    12th Gen i5-12400
    Memory
    16gb Crucial 3200MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 1650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Amazon Omni Fire tv 4K 55"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Kingston NVME M.2 1tb
    Samsung 850 1tb sata
    PSU
    300 Watts
    Cooling
    1 Internal Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitech
    Internet Speed
    300Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    10th Gen i-7, 4-core 8-threads, turbo to 3.9GHz
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus
    Hard Drives
    500gb M.2
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Ahhhhhhhhhh, I knew I forgot something.:rolleyes:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer 1760 UA92
    CPU
    12th Gen i5-12400
    Memory
    16gb Crucial 3200MHz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce GTX 1650
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Amazon Omni Fire tv 4K 55"
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    Kingston NVME M.2 1tb
    Samsung 850 1tb sata
    PSU
    300 Watts
    Cooling
    1 Internal Case fans
    Keyboard
    Wireless Logitech
    Internet Speed
    300Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    10th Gen i-7, 4-core 8-threads, turbo to 3.9GHz
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus
    Hard Drives
    500gb M.2
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
It's just a chip covering some security improvements - available at the time of its development and release, but technological advancements (raw computing power - in particular - not to mention A.I.) - are working against it. It's not like it was meant to last (long term) - quite the opposite. More useful as a Marketing gimmick (it's why was included as requirement in Windows 11) - to sell hardware (using this chip / also, not just for personal/home computers) and Software (Windows 11 - but also used by kernel level drivers). That's not to say it's useless (you do need it - if you're using BitLocker, the biometric features and integrity check). But quite far from "fixing all of that (or being as reliable - as was marketed)!" :)

Wouldn't be surprised if Windows 12 will require TPM 3.0 - for same reason (to sell Windows 12 and latest hardware including it). The key word for TPM was always "improves (better than nothing)!" As an alternative - and more recently Apple is using "Secure Enclave (the equivalent of TPM 2.0)" with their latest hardware - and yet - even without it Apple products were not less secure than Windows. Same can be said about Linux distributions (if not especially) - which is still preferred by many industry giants over Windows - for Servers. To be fair, they have both end-point security (like the infamous CrowdStrike) and also tasked to cover the latest vulnerabilities - as part of the job (not relying on the OEM for a firmware release - like home users).

Yeah, I was being facetious. Those familiar with my posts likely already know what my views are concerning TPM and the Corporate Consortium that launched it. Given the fact that it has been in deployment for 12 years and it's still getting hacked should tell us enough about whether or not it is a reliable security measure. Frankly, I think it's a PITA that should be, at the very least, an optional feature. Seems a shame that ever since the advent of Win 8 so many people have to hack and trim and perform so much surgery just to get a practical OS on their PC. People laugh when I call it a consortium but it is what it is.




History*​

The first TPM version that was deployed was 1.1b in 2003. "Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia"

Trusted Platform Module (TPM) was conceived by a computer industry consortium called Trusted Computing Group (TCG). It evolved into TPM Main Specification Version 1.2 which was standardized by International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) in 2009 as ISO/IEC 11889:2009.<a href="Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia" TPM Main Specification Version 1.2 was finalized on 3 March 2011 completing its revision. "Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia"

On 9 April 2014 the Trusted Computing Group announced a major upgrade to their specification entitled TPM Library Specification 2.0. "Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia" The group continues work on the standard incorporating errata, algorithmic additions and new commands, with its most recent edition published as 2.0 in November 2019. "Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia" This version became ISO/IEC 11889:2015.

When a new revision is released it is divided into multiple parts by the Trusted Computing Group. Each part consists of a document that makes up the whole of the new TPM specification.


  • Part 1 Architecture (renamed from Design Principles)
  • Part 2 Structures of the TPM
  • Part 3 Commands
  • Part 4 Supporting Routines (added in TPM 2.0)
* Source: Trusted Platform Module - Wikipedia
 
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System One

  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K (octocore) / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers. Not a fan of liquid cooling.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    I own too many laptops: A Dell touch screen with Windows 11 and 6 others (not counting the other four laptops I bought for this household.) Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
@Scannerman, you bring up valid points. Despite TPM 2.0 being around for over a decade, it has faced several vulnerabilities and attacks. To my knowledge, known vulnerabilities have been patched. This highlights that no security measure is infallible. It's crucial to keep systems updated and apply patches promptly to mitigate known vulnerabilities. Security is an ongoing process.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    Copilot
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Pro 7
    CPU
    i5 1035G4
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription (Office)
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    Copilot

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