How can I limit my CPU temps?

zqchri · Aug 23, 2024

Ghot said:
I have the window A/C set to 64F (17.8C), and it's just to the right of my case.

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ouuu alright, i dont currently have an ac in my room but there is a fan which helps quite a lot

zqchri · Aug 23, 2024

hdmi said:
The Intel Management Engine Firmware (ME FW) Update Tool can be used to install a critical security update, as is explained in the description on the download page I linked. This same description also clearly states that you need to update the BIOS first. There exists a reason why MSI wrote these kinds of descriptions.

As for the Utilities section again.

True Color is for RGB lighting effects

Thunderbolt Control Center was designed for Windows 10 and is not compatible with Windows 11, but you can grab the Intel Thunderbolt Driver from the Driver section instead

SteelSeries GG is this

MSI App Player is an Android emulator that lets you use your laptop to play games that are designed to run on Android devices

Nvidia GeForce Experience is not needed, but you could install it anyway if you'd like to try it, then maybe uninstall it later if you don't want to keep it

MSI Center is this

Intel Graphics Command Center is this

Realtek Audio Control is this, but the latest version can be sideloaded by running the batch script from the file RealtekAudioControl_1.51.346.0-offline.7z that can be downloaded from here

Nahimic is this, but some years ago there have been reports from various users that some games won't run until you force-terminate Nahimic via Task Manager, and, I don't know if the problems were fixed (and in fact I don't know anything else about it)

Killer Control Center is explained here

NVIDIA Control Panel is... well, you probably know what it is... lol

How to undervolt a CPU: Complete guide to undervolting

Undervolting your processor (CPU) can bring huge benefits but it has to be done correctly for your PC to function well. Check out our guide to CPU undervolting.

www.digitaltrends.com

thank you so much! ill try to do all of these! most of the utility already came with my laptop so im good there, but I'm just wondering what the intel thunderbolt driver would do? thank you again

spapakons · Aug 23, 2024

After upgrading BIOS certain motherboard devices are affected and will also need to update their respective drivers. This is where you install the newer Intel thunderbolt driver and the Intel Management utility.

zqchri · Aug 23, 2024

spapakons said:
After upgrading BIOS certain motherboard devices are affected and will also need to update their respective drivers. This is where you install the newer Intel thunderbolt driver and the Intel Management utility.

alright, thank you sm for the helpp! im really new to all of this nd it helps alot

hdmi · Aug 23, 2024

zqchri said:
thank you so much! ill try to do all of these! most of the utility already came with my laptop so im good there, but I'm just wondering what the intel thunderbolt driver would do? thank you again

Thunderbolt ports are similar to USB ports, but different. Unlike Thunderbolt, USB is supported natively by Windows 8, 8.1, 10, and 11.

hdmi · Aug 23, 2024

spapakons said:
Consequences of overdoing it with overclocking or many hours gaming:
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Don't worry though, you can take advantage of your old PC tower like that:
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No one here has said anything about overclocking. The guide I linked about undervolting tries to explain the difference, and, the part of the video that I also linked to is pretty clear about the fact that you need to make absolutely sure to undervolt [-] rather than overvolt [+] the CPU.

spapakons · Aug 23, 2024

hdmi said:
No one here has said anything about overclocking. The guide I linked about undervolting tries to explain the difference, and, the part of the video that I also linked to is pretty clear about the fact that you need to make absolutely sure to undervolt [-] rather than overvolt [+] the CPU.

I just posted these images as a joke to make others laugh. I didn't said he overclocked the computer, just that he played too many hours and overheated. Well it would freeze or even shutdown long before catching fire of course

hdmi · Aug 23, 2024

spapakons said:
I just posted these images as a joke to make others laugh. I didn't said he overclocked the computer, just that he played too many hours and overheated. Well it would freeze or even shutdown long before catching fire of course

It's from MSI. It's supposed to be on fire.

MSI Gaming Wallpaper 4K

spapakons · Aug 23, 2024

I got it, fire dragon. Nice. I am dragon too in Chinese calendar.

zqchri · Aug 23, 2024

small little update on my temps, i bought this air blower thing a while ago and today i properly used it to clean out my laptop and cooling pad from the outside, LOADS of dust came flying out of the pad, and quite a lot from the laptop itself as well. A bit worried i spoiled my fan as a result of too much air blowing at it as one fan seems to be running a tad bit slower, but the temps are looking so much better after this cleaning + editing the power plan. thank you all for the help! ill be trying to update my bios soon, i do not think ill go into undervolting unless deemed necessary. all the support has helped immensly, love you all

spapakons · Aug 24, 2024

Of course! We recommended anything else but blow dust from your laptop! It should be my first though! Glad you figured it out and did it yourself.

zqchri · Aug 24, 2024

spapakons said:
Of course! We recommended anything else but blow dust from your laptop! It should be my first though! Glad you figured it out and did it yourself.

tjhank you thank youu, and it was a plan of mine for quite a whilee! my temps have gone down for like 60-70 while having any app i want opened, would i still need to go ahead and update bios

spapakons · Aug 24, 2024

A month ago due to high temperatures in Athens, Greece (38-40 degrees Centigrade), my CPU temperature started going to 100 degrees Centigrade and higher. When I bought it second hand, the CPU cooler wasn't available so I used my old Intel Core-i3 CPU fan on the Intel Core-i7. Of course it wasn't adequate so I had high temperatures close to 85-90 degrees. As performance was not affected I just ignored it. However with these hot days the temperature eventually reached the safety threshold of 105 degrees and the CPU underclocked from 3.5GHz to barely 1.4GHz making my PC crawl slower than a snail. I replaced the CPU cooler with a new one with much higher heat dissipation and now it is less than 90 degrees in worst case and running slightly overclocked at 3.7GHz.

Almighty1 · Aug 24, 2024

Just read another thread and trying this:

Does Camomile app stop your computer's CPU running hot

I see threads on this forum where user's computers are running hot and the normal advice is to go to a lot of trouble to fix it. Usually one is advised to take steps as shown the 'Crucial' article below, but then I have just read an article saying that an app can achieve the same result...

www.elevenforum.com

spapakons · Aug 24, 2024

To cool the CPU under clocks it and reduces performance. No, thanks. I want to boost performance not "tranquilize" my CPU with "Camomile".

PerpetualCycle · Aug 24, 2024

Undervolting reduces the voltage and hence the power and temperature at the same performance level. Depending what you want, the cpu can either run cooler at the same performance or the same temperature at higher performance.

How much you can gain is dependent on the quality of your cpu sample. You also need to stress test the cpu since, if you Undervolt too far your system can become unstable. Your BIOS also has to support it. It can be tedious and frustrating.

spapakons · Aug 24, 2024

See the screenshot. Before Camomile the CPU works at higher frequency (speed) than after applying Camomile. This is unacceptable. As long as the CPU temperature is lower than 90 degrees Centigrade I don't care. It might reduce its lifetime a few years, but will you still be using the same computer 20+ years later? I don't think so, so I don't care about mine.

PerpetualCycle · Aug 24, 2024

spapakons said:
See the screenshot. Before Camomile the CPU works at higher frequency (speed) than after applying Camomile. This is unacceptable. As long as the CPU temperature is lower than 90 degrees Centigrade I don't care. It might reduce its lifetime a few years, but will you still be using the same computer 20+ years later? I don't think so, so I don't care about mine.

Well if you are replying to me, I am not talking about some Camomile app. If you properly undervolt your CPU you will get higher performance at the same temperature because you are using less power. You can convert that gain to lower temperature at the same performance by adjusting the throttling mechanisms (max temperature, max power), but you have to be able to adjust these in the BIOS.

I understand why you would not want to bother, but not the reason.

spapakons · Aug 24, 2024

Yes, if you know what you are doing, you can manually set them without BSOD or render the system unbootable. I was referring to Camomile another poster suggested as an easy way to cool the CPU but with reducing performance (less GHz). Like driving a car slower than 70kph to prolong engine's life. No thanks and I hate those drivers that drive like that in front of me at the fast lane.

Helmut · Aug 24, 2024

"Undervolting reduces the voltage and hence the power and temperature at the same performance level. "

That is not true, Laptop CPUs are designed to use lower voltages primarily to save on power in the interests of Battery life, the performance is also lowered.

Perhaps people should mug up on some Semiconductor Physics.

I just use snake oil paint on the "Intel CORE i7" label, changing the i7 to i9.
People always think they can get something for nothing, hence the proliferation of Optimising Apps like the one mentioned.

All this is off topic for the OP.

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