Win Update KB5044384 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview build 26100.2161 (24H2) - Oct. 24


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October 24, 2024 - KB5044384 (OS Build 26100.2161) Preview​


For information about Windows update terminology, see the article about the types of Windows updates and the monthly quality update types. For an overview of Windows 11, version 24H2, see its update history page.

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Highlights

Note: Below is a summary of the key issues that this update addresses when you install this KB. If there are new features, it lists them as well. The bold text within the brackets indicates the item or area of the change we are documenting.

Gradual rollout​

These might not be available to all users because they will roll out gradually.
  • [Notifications] New! You can now stop the suggestions to turn off notifications from certain apps. Select the ellipses (…) in the notification and turn it off. You can also go to Settings > System > Notifications and turn it off from there. Look for “Notification Suggestions” in the senders list. An entry will only appear in the list after you receive a notification.

  • [Wi-Fi password dialog] New! The dialog now has the Windows 11 visual design. Go to Settings > Network & internet.

  • [Narrator]
    • New! This update adds a new Narrator shortcut. Press the Narrator key + Ctrl + X to copy what Narrator last spoke to the clipboard. This shortcut is useful when you want to quickly copy some content, like codes or numbers for use.
    • New! It will now auto read the contents of an email message in the new Outlook. This is like the behavior in Outlook classic.
  • [Gamepad keyboard] New! This update starts the roll out of a new Gamepad keyboard layout for the on-screen keyboard. With it, you can use your Xbox controller to move around the screen and type. Button accelerators are also available; these include the X button for backspace and the Y button for the spacebar. For better movement patterns, the keyboard keys are aligned vertically.

  • [Start menu] New! “All apps” has the new name, “All.”

  • [ALT + Tab] Fixed: The screen goes black on some PCs for a few seconds when you switch between certain windows.
  • [Scanning apps] Fixed: They don't detect certain scanners although they are connected.

Normal rollout​

  • [Web sign-in] Fixed: You cannot sign in to your account from the web because the screen stops responding.
  • [Copilot key settings] New! You can configure the Copilot key on the keyboard. On new devices, the key opens the Copilot app. If you sign in to your account using a Microsoft Entra ID, the key opens the M365 app. You can make the key open a different app or open Search. To do this, go to Settings > Personalization > Text input. To make the key open a different app, the app must be in a signed MSIX package. This ensures that the app meets security and privacy standards to keep you safe. If your PC’s keyboard does not have a Copilot key, changing this setting will do nothing.

  • [WindowsDisk Cleanup app] Fixed: After you use this app, it might show the wrong amount of disk space that you can free up in the 'Windows Update Cleanup' category.

Improvements​

This non-security update includes quality improvements. Below is a summary of the key issues that this update addresses when you install this KB. If there are new features, it lists them as well. The bold text within the brackets indicates the item or area of the change we are documenting.
  • [Virtual hard disk (VHD/VHDx)] New! This update adds a detach virtual hard disk button to Settings. In the properties for your VHD or VHDx, go to Settings > System > Storage > Disks & Volumes. This might not be available to all users because it will roll out gradually.

  • [Networking] New! If you use the netsh wlan show networks command, it can now read SSIDs that are encoded using UTF-8. This means that Wi-Fi SSIDs that have Unicode characters (like emoji) will display properly in netsh output. This might not be available to all users because it will roll out gradually.

  • [Windows Sandbox Client Preview] New! This update adds the Windows Sandbox Client Preview. It includes:
    • Runtime clipboard redirection
    • Audio and video input control
    • The sharing of folders with the host at runtime
      To access these, select the ellipses (…) at the upper right on the app. This preview also includes a version of command-line support. (The commands might change over time). To learn more, use the wsb.exe–help command. You can find new updates for this app in the Microsoft Store. This might not be available to all users because it will roll out gradually.

  • [User interface (UI)] Fixed: You cannot view some parts of the UI when you run certain apps.
  • [HTML Applications (HTA)] Fixed: HTA optional components (OC) are now in ARM64 Windows PE.
  • [Live kernel debug files (dumps)] Fixed: win32kbase.sys creates live kernel debug files when it should not.
  • [Winlogon] Fixed: A stop error occurs during shutdown.
  • [Windows Kernel Vulnerable Driver Blocklist file (DriverSiPolicy.p7b)] This update adds to the list of drivers that are at risk for Bring Your Own Vulnerable Driver (BYOVD) attacks.
  • [sfc /scannow command] Fixed: You get errors every time you run the command.

  • [Service for User to Self (S4U2self)] Fixed: Your device might have issues using S4U2self to authenticate. This occurs if Credential Guard is off, and the device joins an Active Directory domain that does not allow the RC4 cipher.
  • [DirectAccess (known issue)] Fixed: After a clean install or an in-place upgrade to Windows 11, version 24H2, you might face issues using DirectAccess. The connection might not complete and stays in a ‘connecting’ state.
If you installed earlier updates, only the new updates contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device.

Windows 11 servicing stack update (KB5046908) - 26100.2160​

This update makes quality improvements to the servicing stack, which is the component that installs Windows updates. Servicing stack updates (SSU) ensure that you have a robust and reliable servicing stack so that your devices can receive and install Microsoft updates.

Known issues in this update

Applies toSymptomWorkaround
All usersWe’re aware of an issue where players on Arm devices are unable to download and play Roblox via the Microsoft Store on Windows.Players on Arm devices can play Roblox by downloading the title directly from www.Roblox.com.
All usersAfter installing this update, users will encounter an issue where the number of Apps, Background Processes, and Windows Processes in Task Manager display a count of zero, despite having active applications running. This issue appears specifically on the Processes page when the "Group by Type" view is enabled.

Normally, Task Manager displays the count of processes next to each group name (e.g., Apps, Background processes), providing users with a quick view of active processes. However, due to this issue, Task Manager instead shows (0) for each group, regardless of the actual number of running processes.

We are working on a resolution and will provide more information when it is available.
All usersFollowing the installation of the October 2024 security update, some customers report that the OpenSSH (Open Secure Shell) service fails to start, preventing SSH connections. The service fails with no detailed logging, and manual intervention is required to run the sshd.exe process.

This issue is affecting both enterprise, IOT, and education customers, with a limited number of devices impacted. Microsoft is investigating whether consumer customers using Home or Pro editions of Windows are affected.
Customers can temporarily resolve the issue by updating permissions (ACLs) on the affected directories. Follow these steps:
  1. Open PowerShell as an Administrator.
  2. Update the permissions for C:\ProgramData\ssh and C:\ProgramData\ssh\logs to allow full control for SYSTEM and the Administrators group, while allowing read access for Authenticated Users. You can restrict read access to specific users or groups by modifying the permissions string if needed.

    Use the following commands to update the permissions:
    $directoryPath = "C:\ProgramData\ssh" $acl = Get-Acl -Path $directoryPath $sddlString = "O:BAD:PAI(A;OICI;FA;;;SY)(A;OICI;FA;;;BA)(A;OICI;0x1200a9;;;AU)" $securityDescriptor = New-Object System.Security.AccessControl.RawSecurityDescriptor $sddlString $acl.SetSecurityDescriptorSddlForm($securityDescriptor.GetSddlForm("All")) Set-Acl -Path $directoryPath -AclObject $acl
  3. Repeat the above steps for C:\ProgramData\ssh\logs.
Microsoft is actively investigating the issue and will provide a resolution in an upcoming Windows update. Further communications will be provided when a resolution or additional workarounds are available.

How to get this update

Before you install this update

Microsoft combines the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system with the latest cumulative update (LCU). For general information about SSUs, see Servicing stack updates and Servicing Stack Updates (SSU): Frequently Asked Questions.

Install this update

To install this update, use one of the following Windows and Microsoft release channels.

AvailableNext Step
Yes (Windows Update)Go to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update. In the Optional updates available area, you will find the link to download and install the update.
Yes (MSU)Before you install this update
To get the standalone package(s) for this update, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog website. This KB contains one or more MSU files that must be installed in order.

Install this update
Method 1: Install all MSU files together

Download all MSU files for KB5044384 from Microsoft Update Catalog and place them in the same folder (for example, C:/Packages). Use Deployment Image Servicing and Management (DISM.exe) to install the target update. DISM will use the folder specified in PackagePath to discover and install one or more prerequisite MSU files as needed.

Updating Windows PC
To apply this update to a running Windows PC, run the following command from an elevated Command Prompt:

DISM /Online /Add-Package /PackagePath:c:\packages\Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu

Or, run the following command from an elevated Windows PowerShell prompt:

Add-WindowsPackage -Online -PackagePath "c:\packages\Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu"

Updating Windows Installation media
To apply this update to Windows Installation media, see Update Windows installation media with Dynamic Update.

To add this update to a mounted image, run the following command from an elevated Command Prompt:

DISM /Image:mountdir /Add-Package /PackagePath:Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu

Or, run the following command from an elevated Windows PowerShell prompt:

Add-WindowsPackage -Path "c:\offline" -PackagePath "Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu" -PreventPending

If you want to remove the LCU

To remove the LCU after installing the combined SSU and LCU package, use the DISM/Remove-Package command line option with the LCU package name as the argument. You can find the package name by using this command: DISM /online /get-packages.

Running Windows Update Standalone Installer (wusa.exe) with the /uninstall switch on the combined package will not work because the combined package contains the SSU. You cannot remove the SSU from the system after installation.

File information

For a list of the files that are provided in this update, download the file information for cumulative update 5044384.

For a list of the files that are provided in the servicing stack update, download the file information for the SSU (KB5046908) - version 26100.2160.



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i downloaded iso of 26100.2161 From torrent site
and after i see the problem i thought the problem was in this version 26100.2161 So I installed an older version 26100.2152
and when update it to 26100.2161 and update all apps from store the the problem is back


26100.2161 is a non-Insider version.

26100.2152 is Release Preview channel (Insider).
 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3037 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
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    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

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    UX363EA
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    16
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    Intel® Iris® Xe
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    DTS

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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
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    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
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    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    Symantec (Norton)
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
i downloaded iso of 26100.2161 From torrent site
and after i see the problem i thought the problem was in this version 26100.2161 So I installed an older version 26100.2152
and when update it to 26100.2161 and update all apps from store the the problem is back
Use the official MS ISO 26100.1742 and then update.
Your WebExperience pack is a much higher version than what I had on clean install of 26100.1742. They may have a specific bug on that version.
I cannot reproduce your problem with the version I have. 😎🤷‍♂️

MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_524.27701.0.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy
 
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell XPS 8930
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    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
26100.2161 is a non-Insider version.

26100.2152 is Release Preview channel (Insider).
26100.2161 is for both Release Preview and optional preview for non-insider.
I have the same build on both Public Build and insider R.P. 😂😉🤷‍♂️
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Dell XPS 8930
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    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
I will do that


 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3037 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Not according to @Kari
... and PC finally creates an ISO image.
It is a script, which works using the PC.

Many times uudump failed to create ISO on my PC, because of damaged DISM.
Using uudump ISO created by someone else might be fine, but I always choose ISO.
 

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    Noctua NH-U12S with Noctua NF-P12 (04/24)
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    HP Pavilion Wired Keyboard 300 (07/24) + Rabalux 76017 Parker (01/24)
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I will do that and i see what happen 😂😂
I did a clean install with the MS ISO 26100.1742 and windows came up with the update already at 26100.2033.
At that point the Widgets version was lower but the 1st update from MS Store got the same version that you have.
Seems to work fine at this point with Build 26100.2033. I'll update next to 26100.2161 and see what happens. 😎🤷‍♂️
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
@MeD0,
Looks like I cannot reproduce your problem even with a clean install and the same version of Widgets (Web Experience pack)
Light mode or Dark mode. Still fine after getting up to 26100.2161. 😂🤷‍♂️
Same version as yours. I used the official Microsoft 24H2 MCT ISO 26100.1742 to do the initial clean install.
During the clean install it was updated already to 26100.2033. Then Windows Web Experience was updated from the MS Store. and went up to the same version that you have.
After that Windows Update downloaded and installed the optional preview update to 26100.2161.
No other changes to Web Experience pack that was already up to 524.24900.130.0. 🤷‍♂️

Perhaps the installation ISOs that you are using from a third-party have some other bug that cause your problem.
Sorry, I cannot reproduce your issue. Everything works fine for me here. 🤞

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Still the same version of widgets in Public Build 26100.2161
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New version in 26100.2161 R.P. channel. 🤷‍♂️
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
finally discovered what was wrong with this machine
That was some solid troubleshooting. Good job and I'm glad you got it sorted out!
 

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    32GB
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    Integrated
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    Corsair K70 Mechanical Keyboard
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    Edge
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    Windows Defender
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Note that I never installed 11 onto hardware deemed unsupported by Microsoft. Yet, Windows Update still at times, felt atrociously slow on my Ryzen 9 5900X-B550 build!

That was some solid troubleshooting. Good job and I'm glad you got it sorted out!
Totally agree with you - too many people blame MS only doing superficial troubleshooting at best.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Hello, since yesterday evening I have version 504.28801.0.0
What windows Build?
Did you check for updates in the MS Store? 504.28801.0.0 seems wrong.
I think you may have a typo, should be 524 not 504. 😎


Initial Widgets version after a clean install of 26100.1742.
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This is with Build 24H2 26100.2161 (non-insider)
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This is with 24H2 R.P. channel.
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This one with Canary Build 27729.1000.
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This is on Beta Build 22635.4435
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
@MeD0,
Looks like I cannot reproduce your problem even with a clean install and the same version of Widgets (Web Experience pack)
Light mode or Dark mode. Still fine after getting up to 26100.2161. 😂🤷‍♂️
Same version as yours. I used the official Microsoft 24H2 MCT ISO 26100.1742 to do the initial clean install.
During the clean install it was updated already to 26100.2033. Then Windows Web Experience was updated from the MS Store. and went up to the same version that you have.
After that Windows Update downloaded and installed the optional preview update to 26100.2161.
No other changes to Web Experience pack that was already up to 524.24900.130.0. 🤷‍♂️

Perhaps the installation ISOs that you are using from a third-party have some other bug that cause your problem.
Sorry, I cannot reproduce your issue. Everything works fine for me here. 🤞

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Still the same version of widgets in Public Build 26100.2161
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New version in 26100.2161 R.P. channel. 🤷‍♂️
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Thank you for your attempts to help and solve the problem.
I solved it by reinstalling the same version but from AppxBundle file
But the problem that appeared is that I cannot log in with a Microsoft account through it,
but that does not matter as long as it works in the rest of the programs.
Note: Some old versions work well and without login problems, especially version number 423.5500.

In fact, I do not know where the problem lies, as it only appeared in this build 26100.2161 or the update to it.
I was previously on build 26100.2033 and I updated successively until I reached build 26100.2152 without any problem.
After downloading 26100.2161, I Fresh installed Windows from iso and the problem appeared.

Finally, thank you and everyone for the help

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz 2.80 G
    Motherboard
    UX363EA
    Memory
    16
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® Iris® Xe
    Sound Card
    DTS
Totally agree with you - too many people blame MS only doing superficial troubleshooting at best.

Agree with this.
There is way too much people not willing to learn and understand how things work, then blame the system and say "just format it, that's Windows"...

I'm from a time where having to format your Windows was only if you really didn't had any other option, we ran from having to do it like it was the devil 😄
 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    AsRock Taichi X570
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 2x32GB @3600 C18
    Graphics Card(s)
    GB AERO RTX 4090
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware AW3821DW + 18'' Uperfect portable
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600
    Hard Drives
    Corsair MP600 1TB NvME (C:); Corsair MP600 PRO 2TB NvME (E:); Intel 660P 1TB NvME (1TB); WD Black SN770 2TB NvME (External via Realtek RTL 910B-CG closure)
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Pantheks NV7 White
    Cooling
    Lian Li Galahad 360 v2 WC
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    2x 700 MBPS Fiber
Thank you for your attempts to help and solve the problem.
I solved it by reinstalling the same version but from AppxBundle file
But the problem that appeared is that I cannot log in with a Microsoft account through it,
but that does not matter as long as it works in the rest of the programs.
Note: Some old versions work well and without login problems, especially version number 423.5500.

In fact, I do not know where the problem lies, as it only appeared in this build 26100.2161 or the update to it.
I was previously on build 26100.2033 and I updated successively until I reached build 26100.2152 without any problem.
After downloading 26100.2161, I Fresh installed Windows from iso and the problem appeared.

Finally, thank you and everyone for the help
@MeD0,
Glad you got it to work, where did you get the AppxBundle file from?

The only difference is the ISO you used for the clean install. 😎🤷‍♂️
Or perhaps you did not check for updates in MS Store?
I can sign in fine with the same exact version of Widgets and Build 26100.2161.
This one is on my public build (non-insider). 😉

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
Agree with this.
There is way too much people not willing to learn and understand how things work, then blame the system and say "just format it, that's Windows"...

I'm from a time where having to format your Windows was only if you really didn't had any other option, we ran from having to do it like it was the devil 😄
That's the meme of pre-10, even more so with NT5 and earlier, usually had to wipe and reinstall.

Since 10, I avoid that, when I can.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVR
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware AW3423DWF OLED ultrawide
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 750 G3
    Case
    Corsair 275R
    Internet Speed
    VTel FTTH 1 Gb down and 1 Gb up
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (UEFI-BIOS version 3607)
    Memory
    32 GB (2x16 GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo)
    Graphics card(s)
    Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6750 XT
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 650 GQ
    Case
    Fractal Focus G
That's the meme of pre-10, even more so with NT5 and earlier, usually had to wipe and reinstall.

Since 10, I avoid that, when I can.
I only do clean installs for testing purposes.
All my Windows 11 working systems are upgraded from previous Windows 7 and Windows 10.
I hate reinstalling all programs and Apps after a clean install, I avoid that as long as I can. 🤐😉🤷‍♂️
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
@MeD0,

B.T.W.
I did another clean install offline with 26100.1742 and I saw this showing up only the 1st time I tried to open widgets.
Then it opened fine the second time, and I never saw that again regardless of anything I tried for reproducing it. 🤣🤷‍♂️
At that time, it was still with this version:
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
That's the meme of pre-10, even more so with NT5 and earlier, usually had to wipe and reinstall.

Since 10, I avoid that, when I can.

It was not fun on the XP era when we decided to change hardware but REALLY didn't want to do a clean install and lose everything, it was something really sketchy and risky to do 😅

But I learned a lot, I carry some habits from that era to this day - like doing a full critical / drivers' removal via Device Manager on Safe Mode before changing the MB / CPU, even tho since W10 SysPrep became waay smarter.


I only do clean installs for testing purposes.
All my Windows 11 working systems are upgraded from previous Windows 7 and Windows 10.
I hate reinstalling all programs and Apps after a clean install, I avoid that as long as I can. 🤐😉🤷‍♂️

Same here, if I want to test something, I plug in some old SSD and do the install.

Main system last clean install was original W7, since then all official upgrades, 2 full system MB/CPU changes, plus 3 OS migrations when I wanted to upgrade the primary driver.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5800X
    Motherboard
    AsRock Taichi X570
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB RT 2x32GB @3600 C18
    Graphics Card(s)
    GB AERO RTX 4090
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware AW3821DW + 18'' Uperfect portable
    Screen Resolution
    3840x1600
    Hard Drives
    Corsair MP600 1TB NvME (C:); Corsair MP600 PRO 2TB NvME (E:); Intel 660P 1TB NvME (1TB); WD Black SN770 2TB NvME (External via Realtek RTL 910B-CG closure)
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Pantheks NV7 White
    Cooling
    Lian Li Galahad 360 v2 WC
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    2x 700 MBPS Fiber
It was not fun on the XP era when we decided to change hardware but REALLY didn't want to do a clean install and lose everything, it was something really sketchy and risky to do 😅
Back then, ironically, you were more likely to be forced to reinstall with any corruption, despite the Draconian WPA policies of back then!
I swore those were the dark days of WPA! If Windows XP wasn't corrupted at all, then good for y'all.
Also, the dark days of Windows getting hacked when just connecting to the internet with dial-up! (if you forgot to install a third-party firewall)

It was too easy to get hacked back in 2003! :ffs:
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVR
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware AW3423DWF OLED ultrawide
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 750 G3
    Case
    Corsair 275R
    Internet Speed
    VTel FTTH 1 Gb down and 1 Gb up
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (UEFI-BIOS version 3607)
    Memory
    32 GB (2x16 GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo)
    Graphics card(s)
    Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6750 XT
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 650 GQ
    Case
    Fractal Focus G

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