Solved Latest Macrium Reflect 8 updates


Only using the boot-media ( on Ventoy) of Macrium , will only update if a new Macrium has sicnificant boot-media update............using the boot-media of the 8.1.7401 , works exellent , while latest version has no updates for the boot-media............ :wink:
 

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One issue to think about is the pro vs con of restore vs rebuild. A restore can at best be only as good as the source machine, a rebuild can be better, but also takes more effort.

If the incidents are very rare, as is the case with my main machine, then I myself would take the opportunity to rebuild.

YMMV :cool:
 

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pietcorus2 said:
Only using the boot-media ( on Ventoy) of Macrium , will only update if a new Macrium has sicnificant boot-media update............using the boot-media of the 8.1.7401 , works exellent , while latest version has no updates for the boot-media............ :wink:
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If/when you do an update remember to test that it will boot correctly from Ventoy. I did this test recently and found that it would not load... resolved by updating Ventoy.
 

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Yes, pryority for the Ventoy-updates first , second boot-media updates Macrium......... :wink:
 

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With regard to the Black Lotus problem, if I do nothing and let MS do the fixing ...

... is there anything extra or anything different a Macrium user like me should do?

I myself did not notice anything different and I did not see any mention of Black Lotus in the Macrium updates so far, but I want to make sure I did not overlook something.
 

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Haydon said:
With regard to the Black Lotus problem, if I do nothing and let MS do the fixing ...

... is there anything extra or anything different a Macrium user like me should do?

I myself did not notice anything different and I did not see any mention of Black Lotus in the Macrium updates so far, but I want to make sure I did not overlook something.
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Might want to update Rescue environment (USB) as it also contains EFI.
 

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I made 2 Rescue USBs, one made before the hoopla started, the other one made after the hoopla started (made after the May 9 WU even) they both boot.

Hope that Macrium is nimble enough to keep up with whatever MS is doing.
 

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" Hope that Macrium is nimble enough to keep up with whatever MS is doing. "............they will do so , for sure !! :wink:
 

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Haydon said:
I made 2 Rescue USBs, one made before the hoopla started, the other one made after the hoopla started (made after the May 9 WU even) they both boot.

Hope that Macrium is nimble enough to keep up with whatever MS is doing.
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Just out of curiousty, did you actually run the commands that apply the revocations or was this testing done without that? On the one machine that I tried it on so far any media built with a build of Windows prior to 1702 would not boot IF secure boot is enabled AND the commands to apply the revocations were run.
 

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hsehestedt said:
Just out of curiousty, did you actually run the commands that apply the revocations or was this testing done without that? On the one machine that I tried it on so far any media built with a build of Windows prior to 1702 would not boot IF secure boot is enabled AND the commands to apply the revocations were run.
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I did nothing and let MS do the fixing as per my previous post #506.

In other words, I follow the herd and hope for safety :cool:

P.S. I think this thread is a good place to follow, as any Macrium update will most likely mention the Black Lotus problem if the user has to act.
 

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The answer may well be within the 26 pages of this thread, but is there anywhere I can safely download the last free edition of Macrium Reflect?

Thanks
 

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https://download.macrium.com/reflect/v8/v8.0.7279/reflect_setup_free_x64.exe

(Compliments of Bree, a stable, trusted, and not-near-end-of-life member here)
 
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Bree said:
get Reflect Free direct from Macrium's download server is with their https://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v8/ReflectDLHF.exe'[/URL]
Hey Bree, I was shocked. It downloads 8.1.7540
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glasskuter said:
Hey Bree, I was shocked. It downloads 8.1.7540
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You are looking at the version number of the Download Agent ReflectDLHF.exe. That is indeed v8.1.7540. But that's not the version it will download.

I've just tested downloading and running it. The 'Macrium Reflect software to download' has Free selected with no option to change the selection. The version it downloaded is v8.0.7279 Free, as can be seen in the download log.

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There's a game you can play with the download agent, just rename it and you can change what it will download.

Try renaming ReflectDLHF.exe before running it. What it offers as download options is entirely dependent on the name of the .exe file. Almost any name will offer the choice of Home or Free.....

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...but rename it as ReflectFull.exe and it offers every available version except Free.

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With the name ReflectDLHF.exe it will only offer to download Free (DownLoad Home Free).
With the name ReflectDLHT.exe it will only offer to download Home, which without a key will install as the Trial version.
(DownLoad Home Trial)

Only Free will download v8.0, all the other versions will be v8.1.
 
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Ahh. I see. It's the download agent that is version 8.1.7540. I was going by what popped up when I hovered over ReflectDLHF.exe. I never actually opened it. My bad.
 

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Bree said:
There's a game you can play with the download agent, just rename it and you can change what it will download.

Try renaming ReflectDLHF.exe before running it. What it offers as download options is entirely dependent on the name of the .exe file. Almost any name will offer the choice of Home or Free.....

1682360340405-png.58697


...but rename it as ReflectFull.exe and it offers every available version except Free.

1682360400561-png.58698


With the name ReflectDLHF.exe it will only offer to download Free (DownLoad Home Free).
With the name ReflectDLHT.exe it will only offer to download Home, which without a key will install as the Trial version.
(DownLoad Home Trial)

Only Free will download v8.0, all the other versions will be v8.1.
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That is interesting. I have never heard of an installer that changes its functionality based on name of installer.

Wouldn't it be great if you could do this with Insider versions of Windows lol.
 

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    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro and Insider Dev
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps
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