Tiny11


When using Rufus to create the bootable .iso, should I be using Fat32(Default) or NTFS? I assumed NTFS but when it was done creating the .iso it said in order to boot properly I'd need to disable Secure Boot. Using Rufus 3.16 that is included in the Optimum 11 .zip. If anyone could clarify, much appreciated, thanks in advance.
The default in new versions of Rufus is GPT (FAT32) to create an UEFI mode USB flash drive for installing Windows 11 on modern computers with UEFI firmware. If you want to create an MBR (NTFS) Legacy BIOS USB flash drive to install Windows 11 on older systems, you have to select it before proceeding.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
We need to start a X-Lite forum somewhere just for these types of questions. This started out as Tiny 11. Now it has expanded to this.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10/11 Triple Boot Insider Release Preview and DEV channels
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY
    CPU
    i5 Core 7200U@2.50GHz (Unsupported for Win 11)
    Motherboard
    HP 81AD (U3E1)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1536x864 pixels
    Hard Drives
    HGST HTS721010A9E630
    PSU
    Well...PSU you!! What's this mean?
    Case
    HP ENVY SILVER
    Cooling
    A fan.
    Keyboard
    USA
    Mouse
    Logitec Anywhere 2
    Internet Speed
    Good enough for me! Fast!
    Browser
    Edge/Waterfox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    No 'mo.
Can anyone compare and contrast Tiny and X-Lite? I asked ChatGPT!

**Tiny11** and **X-Lite 11** are both custom, lightweight versions of Windows 11, designed to run on lower-end hardware or to offer streamlined performance by removing bloatware and unnecessary features. While both aim to provide a more efficient and faster experience than the standard Windows 11, they differ in their approach, features, and use cases. Here’s a detailed comparison:

### 1. **Purpose and Philosophy**
- **Tiny11:**
- Developed by NTDev, Tiny11 is designed to be a minimalistic version of Windows 11 that can run on older or less powerful hardware. It strips down Windows 11 to its core essentials, reducing the system’s resource demands.
- The main goal is to maintain the core Windows experience while removing unnecessary components like bloatware, pre-installed apps, and some background services.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- X-Lite 11 is a more aggressively optimized version of Windows 11 that goes beyond just removing bloatware. It offers multiple builds, each tailored for different levels of functionality—from bare-bones systems to versions with more features retained.
- X-Lite 11 is highly customizable, allowing users to choose between different levels of performance and functionality depending on their needs.

### 2. **Features and Components**
- **Tiny11:**
- Includes most essential Windows features like the Microsoft Store, Windows Defender, and basic apps.
- Strips away unnecessary apps and features, but aims to keep the experience as close to standard Windows 11 as possible.
- Typically retains support for Windows updates and activation, making it more suitable for users who want a lightweight OS without sacrificing compatibility.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Offers multiple builds with varying levels of component removal. Some builds might remove features like the Microsoft Store, Edge, Cortana, or even Windows Defender, depending on the version.
- Includes options for extreme performance by stripping down to the essentials, making it ideal for gaming, virtual machines, or users who want maximum performance.
- X-Lite 11’s builds may be more experimental, with certain versions not supporting standard updates or activation without additional workarounds.

### 3. **System Requirements and Performance**
- **Tiny11:**
- Aimed at systems with lower specs, Tiny11 can run on as little as 8 GB of storage and 2 GB of RAM, making it suitable for older machines or devices with limited resources.
- Performance is improved primarily by reducing the system’s overhead, but the user experience remains close to that of a full Windows 11 installation.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Offers versions that can run on extremely low-end hardware, sometimes even lower than Tiny11, due to more aggressive stripping of features.
- Performance gains are more significant, especially in versions designed for gaming or specialized tasks, but this comes at the cost of reduced features and potential compatibility issues.

### 4. **Compatibility and Usability**
- **Tiny11:**
- Prioritizes maintaining compatibility with most software, drivers, and peripherals. It’s designed to be a “drop-in” replacement for Windows 11 with minimal sacrifices in functionality.
- Suitable for general users, schools, or businesses needing a lightweight yet functional OS that closely mirrors standard Windows 11.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Compatibility can vary depending on the version. Some builds are highly specialized, which might lead to issues with certain applications, updates, or drivers.
- More suitable for advanced users, tech enthusiasts, or those with specific needs, like gaming or running in virtual machines, who are comfortable with potential trade-offs in usability.

### 5. **Updates and Security**
- **Tiny11:**
- Designed to still work with Windows Update and maintain security features like Windows Defender. This makes it a safer option for everyday use.
- Provides a balance between a lightweight system and ongoing security and update support.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Depending on the build, updates and security features might be disabled or removed entirely. Some versions may require manual updates or third-party security solutions.
- Greater customization comes with higher risk, making it less suitable for users who need consistent updates and security patches.

### 6. **Customization and Flexibility**
- **Tiny11:**
- Less customizable out of the box compared to X-Lite, but it retains more of the standard Windows 11 experience. It’s meant for users who want simplicity and reliability.

- **X-Lite 11:**
- Highly customizable, with different builds catering to different needs. Users can select from ultra-light versions with minimal components to slightly more robust versions depending on their performance or feature needs.
- Provides more control over the system at the cost of complexity and potential stability issues.

### Summary:
- **Tiny11** is a streamlined, lightweight version of Windows 11 aimed at providing a near-standard experience with reduced system requirements. It’s ideal for users who want a functional and familiar Windows experience on older or less powerful hardware.

- **X-Lite 11** offers more aggressive optimization with varying levels of customization and component stripping. It’s better suited for advanced users who need maximum performance, especially in specialized scenarios like gaming or running virtual machines, and are willing to trade off features and compatibility for speed.

Choosing between the two depends on whether you prioritize a stable, simplified experience (Tiny11) or maximum customization and performance (X-Lite 11).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Both have limited features and less compatibility with Tiny11 sounding a little better (regarding compatibility) to X-Lite 11. I value compatibility most, so I would rather avoid both and try to make the standard Windows 11 version lighter myself. I know it won't be as light as these tools, but it will be light enough to run Windows 11 reasonably fast on a Core 2 Duo or higher with 2GB RAM and at least 25-30GB disk space (to accommodate some applications as well).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Both have limited features and less compatibility with Tiny11 sounding a little better (regarding compatibility) to X-Lite 11. I value compatibility most, so I would rather avoid both and try to make the standard Windows 11 version lighter myself. I know it won't be as light as these tools, but it will be light enough to run Windows 11 reasonably fast on a Core 2 Duo or higher with 2GB RAM and at least 25-30GB disk space (to accommodate some applications as well).
Have you tried them?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Have you tried them?
No, I don't have too much free time to experiment with these. Installing them in a virtual machine is pointless because it will be as fast as the host. They must be tested on a really old computer to make safe conclusions.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Installing them in a virtual machine is pointless because it will be as fast as the host. They must be tested on a really old computer to make safe conclusions.

You could turn down the performance of the VM, to simulate a slower PC. I test applications that I write this way, to see how they perform with slower CPUs, network, whatever is appropriate for what I’m testing.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
  • Operating System
    Linux Mint 21.2 (Cinnamon)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC8i5BEH
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8259U CPU @ 2.30GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Plus 655
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
I am not that advanced with virtual machines. I use VMWare Workstation. How do you slow down that virtual machine?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I am not that advanced with virtual machines. I use VMWare Workstation. How do you slow down that virtual machine?
You can do things like turn down the amount of RAM you give the VM, or decrease the number of CPUs or cores per CPU.

For network related testing, you can select the network adapter and click the Advanced button. There, you can slow down the in/out bandwidth, increase latency, introduce some amount of packet loss, etc.

I know Hyper-V has similar capabilities. Not sure about Virtual Box; I haven't use it in ages.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC12WSHi7
    CPU
    12th Gen Intel Core i7-1260P, 2100 MHz
    Motherboard
    NUC12WSBi7
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    built-in Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3219Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 990 PRO 1TB
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
  • Operating System
    Linux Mint 21.2 (Cinnamon)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC8i5BEH
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8259U CPU @ 2.30GHz
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Iris Plus 655
    Keyboard
    CODE 104-Key Mechanical with Cherry MX Clears
I think I am going to try X-Lite, I looks like something that can breathe new life into my old slowwww Dell Laptop
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 build 26100.1586
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    self built
    CPU
    Intel i5-6500 3.5 Ghz quad core
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-170-HD3
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 16GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung Curved 23"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    8 Drives total: One 1TB M.2 SSD (for OS) Three internal Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD's , 4 Western Digital External removable drives , 3 @ 1TB each and 1 8TB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender
I think I am going to try X-Lite, I looks like something that can breathe new life into my old slowwww Dell Laptop
X-Lite keeps the updates off when installed by default. If I don't turn them on (they say don't) , how do I update my drivers and other system components?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10/11 Triple Boot Insider Release Preview and DEV channels
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY
    CPU
    i5 Core 7200U@2.50GHz (Unsupported for Win 11)
    Motherboard
    HP 81AD (U3E1)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1536x864 pixels
    Hard Drives
    HGST HTS721010A9E630
    PSU
    Well...PSU you!! What's this mean?
    Case
    HP ENVY SILVER
    Cooling
    A fan.
    Keyboard
    USA
    Mouse
    Logitec Anywhere 2
    Internet Speed
    Good enough for me! Fast!
    Browser
    Edge/Waterfox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    No 'mo.
X-Lite keeps the updates off when installed by default. If I don't turn them on (they say don't) , how do I update my drivers and other system components?
There's a link on their site for Update Packs for the different builds. I usually do drivers by myself. Not sure about system components tho.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
    Motherboard
    ASUS B650E-F Gaming WiFi
    Memory
    G.Skill 32GB 6000MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080
    PSU
    Super Flower 1000w
    Case
    Fractal North
    Cooling
    Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK
What are you talking about? If the system is old enough to benefit from a light Windows 11 version, there are no driver updates. You just install latest drivers once and you have peace of mind regarding drivers.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
What are you talking about? If the system is old enough to benefit from a light Windows 11 version, there are no driver updates. You just install latest drivers once and you have peace of mind regarding drivers.
I have a recent laptop with very modest specs. X-Lite has made a massive performance improvement and of course you can update drivers and use Windows Update or not - your choice. Why are you so critical of a system you have never used? Please unwatch this thread.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
I have a recent laptop with very modest specs. X-Lite has made a massive performance improvement and of course you can update drivers and use Windows Update or not - your choice. Why are you so critical of a system you have never used? Please unwatch this thread.
I have my updates turned on tp get all the updates for drivers and all other components and seems to running just as fast. What I don't do is use 3rd party programs like Driver Booster or SDI and crap like that. Just MS Updates.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10/11 Triple Boot Insider Release Preview and DEV channels
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY
    CPU
    i5 Core 7200U@2.50GHz (Unsupported for Win 11)
    Motherboard
    HP 81AD (U3E1)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1536x864 pixels
    Hard Drives
    HGST HTS721010A9E630
    PSU
    Well...PSU you!! What's this mean?
    Case
    HP ENVY SILVER
    Cooling
    A fan.
    Keyboard
    USA
    Mouse
    Logitec Anywhere 2
    Internet Speed
    Good enough for me! Fast!
    Browser
    Edge/Waterfox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    No 'mo.
I have my updates turned on tp get all the updates for drivers and all other components and seems to running just as fast. What I don't do is use 3rd party programs like Driver Booster or SDI and crap like that. Just MS Updates.
Have you tried any of the other cutdown versions of W10 or W11? Please give us your thoughts.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Have you tried any of the other cutdown versions of W10 or W11? Please give us your thoughts.
No. Just Optimum 11. And I found about it thanks to you when you mentioned it in this post about 3 days ago. I really appreciate it and running on it now. Since I enabled updates, I am now on 26100.1560 and it's really fast. Might make it my default OS but will wait. Still testing.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10/11 Triple Boot Insider Release Preview and DEV channels
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY
    CPU
    i5 Core 7200U@2.50GHz (Unsupported for Win 11)
    Motherboard
    HP 81AD (U3E1)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1536x864 pixels
    Hard Drives
    HGST HTS721010A9E630
    PSU
    Well...PSU you!! What's this mean?
    Case
    HP ENVY SILVER
    Cooling
    A fan.
    Keyboard
    USA
    Mouse
    Logitec Anywhere 2
    Internet Speed
    Good enough for me! Fast!
    Browser
    Edge/Waterfox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    No 'mo.
I have a recent laptop with very modest specs. X-Lite has made a massive performance improvement and of course you can update drivers and use Windows Update or not - your choice. Why are you so critical of a system you have never used? Please unwatch this thread.
I just try to make clear to novices that what they gain in speed they lose in functionality or compatibility. Besides any Intel Core-i3 system or higher will have little benefit from a light Windows 11 version. The difference would not be that large as you claim for the average user. It only makes sense for a very old and very slow system. Or for gaming to achieve maximum performance but lose features.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Optimum's latest is 26100.1457. Are you on Windows 11 Pro 24H2?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
I just try to make clear to novices that what they gain in speed they lose in functionality or compatibility. Besides any Intel Core-i3 system or higher will have little benefit from a light Windows 11 version. The difference would not be that large as you claim for the average user. It only makes sense for a very old and very slow system. Or for gaming to achieve maximum performance but lose features.
That may be. I'm running both builds of 26100.1560 (one normal and one Optimum X-Lite) dual boot on my HP i7 Core laptop (CPU non-compatible) and I notice that X-Lite is faster. The other is a bit slower.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win10/11 Triple Boot Insider Release Preview and DEV channels
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP ENVY
    CPU
    i5 Core 7200U@2.50GHz (Unsupported for Win 11)
    Motherboard
    HP 81AD (U3E1)
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Generic PnP Monitor (1920x1080@60Hz) Intel HD Graphics 620 (HP)
    Sound Card
    Conexant ISST audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1536x864 pixels
    Hard Drives
    HGST HTS721010A9E630
    PSU
    Well...PSU you!! What's this mean?
    Case
    HP ENVY SILVER
    Cooling
    A fan.
    Keyboard
    USA
    Mouse
    Logitec Anywhere 2
    Internet Speed
    Good enough for me! Fast!
    Browser
    Edge/Waterfox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    No 'mo.

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