Win Update KB5044384 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview build 26100.2161 (24H2) - Oct. 24


UPDATE 11/12:


 Microsoft Support:

October 24, 2024 - KB5044384 (OS Build 26100.2161) Preview​


For information about Windows update terminology, see the article about the types of Windows updates and the monthly quality update types. For an overview of Windows 11, version 24H2, see its update history page.

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Highlights

Note: Below is a summary of the key issues that this update addresses when you install this KB. If there are new features, it lists them as well. The bold text within the brackets indicates the item or area of the change we are documenting.

Gradual rollout​

These might not be available to all users because they will roll out gradually.
  • [Notifications] New! You can now stop the suggestions to turn off notifications from certain apps. Select the ellipses (…) in the notification and turn it off. You can also go to Settings > System > Notifications and turn it off from there. Look for “Notification Suggestions” in the senders list. An entry will only appear in the list after you receive a notification.

  • [Wi-Fi password dialog] New! The dialog now has the Windows 11 visual design. Go to Settings > Network & internet.

  • [Narrator]
    • New! This update adds a new Narrator shortcut. Press the Narrator key + Ctrl + X to copy what Narrator last spoke to the clipboard. This shortcut is useful when you want to quickly copy some content, like codes or numbers for use.
    • New! It will now auto read the contents of an email message in the new Outlook. This is like the behavior in Outlook classic.
  • [Gamepad keyboard] New! This update starts the roll out of a new Gamepad keyboard layout for the on-screen keyboard. With it, you can use your Xbox controller to move around the screen and type. Button accelerators are also available; these include the X button for backspace and the Y button for the spacebar. For better movement patterns, the keyboard keys are aligned vertically.

  • [Start menu] New! “All apps” has the new name, “All.”

  • [ALT + Tab] Fixed: The screen goes black on some PCs for a few seconds when you switch between certain windows.
  • [Scanning apps] Fixed: They don't detect certain scanners although they are connected.

Normal rollout​

  • [Web sign-in] Fixed: You cannot sign in to your account from the web because the screen stops responding.
  • [Copilot key settings] New! You can configure the Copilot key on the keyboard. On new devices, the key opens the Copilot app. If you sign in to your account using a Microsoft Entra ID, the key opens the M365 app. You can make the key open a different app or open Search. To do this, go to Settings > Personalization > Text input. To make the key open a different app, the app must be in a signed MSIX package. This ensures that the app meets security and privacy standards to keep you safe. If your PC’s keyboard does not have a Copilot key, changing this setting will do nothing.

  • [WindowsDisk Cleanup app] Fixed: After you use this app, it might show the wrong amount of disk space that you can free up in the 'Windows Update Cleanup' category.

Improvements​

This non-security update includes quality improvements. Below is a summary of the key issues that this update addresses when you install this KB. If there are new features, it lists them as well. The bold text within the brackets indicates the item or area of the change we are documenting.
  • [Virtual hard disk (VHD/VHDx)] New! This update adds a detach virtual hard disk button to Settings. In the properties for your VHD or VHDx, go to Settings > System > Storage > Disks & Volumes. This might not be available to all users because it will roll out gradually.

  • [Networking] New! If you use the netsh wlan show networks command, it can now read SSIDs that are encoded using UTF-8. This means that Wi-Fi SSIDs that have Unicode characters (like emoji) will display properly in netsh output. This might not be available to all users because it will roll out gradually.

  • [Windows Sandbox Client Preview] New! This update adds the Windows Sandbox Client Preview. It includes:
    • Runtime clipboard redirection
    • Audio and video input control
    • The sharing of folders with the host at runtime
      To access these, select the ellipses (…) at the upper right on the app. This preview also includes a version of command-line support. (The commands might change over time). To learn more, use the wsb.exe–help command. You can find new updates for this app in the Microsoft Store. This might not be available to all users because it will roll out gradually.

  • [User interface (UI)] Fixed: You cannot view some parts of the UI when you run certain apps.
  • [HTML Applications (HTA)] Fixed: HTA optional components (OC) are now in ARM64 Windows PE.
  • [Live kernel debug files (dumps)] Fixed: win32kbase.sys creates live kernel debug files when it should not.
  • [Winlogon] Fixed: A stop error occurs during shutdown.
  • [Windows Kernel Vulnerable Driver Blocklist file (DriverSiPolicy.p7b)] This update adds to the list of drivers that are at risk for Bring Your Own Vulnerable Driver (BYOVD) attacks.
  • [sfc /scannow command] Fixed: You get errors every time you run the command.

  • [Service for User to Self (S4U2self)] Fixed: Your device might have issues using S4U2self to authenticate. This occurs if Credential Guard is off, and the device joins an Active Directory domain that does not allow the RC4 cipher.
  • [DirectAccess (known issue)] Fixed: After a clean install or an in-place upgrade to Windows 11, version 24H2, you might face issues using DirectAccess. The connection might not complete and stays in a ‘connecting’ state.
If you installed earlier updates, only the new updates contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device.

Windows 11 servicing stack update (KB5046908) - 26100.2160​

This update makes quality improvements to the servicing stack, which is the component that installs Windows updates. Servicing stack updates (SSU) ensure that you have a robust and reliable servicing stack so that your devices can receive and install Microsoft updates.

Known issues in this update

Applies toSymptomWorkaround
All usersWe’re aware of an issue where players on Arm devices are unable to download and play Roblox via the Microsoft Store on Windows.Players on Arm devices can play Roblox by downloading the title directly from www.Roblox.com.
All usersAfter installing this update, users will encounter an issue where the number of Apps, Background Processes, and Windows Processes in Task Manager display a count of zero, despite having active applications running. This issue appears specifically on the Processes page when the "Group by Type" view is enabled.

Normally, Task Manager displays the count of processes next to each group name (e.g., Apps, Background processes), providing users with a quick view of active processes. However, due to this issue, Task Manager instead shows (0) for each group, regardless of the actual number of running processes.

We are working on a resolution and will provide more information when it is available.
All usersFollowing the installation of the October 2024 security update, some customers report that the OpenSSH (Open Secure Shell) service fails to start, preventing SSH connections. The service fails with no detailed logging, and manual intervention is required to run the sshd.exe process.

This issue is affecting both enterprise, IOT, and education customers, with a limited number of devices impacted. Microsoft is investigating whether consumer customers using Home or Pro editions of Windows are affected.
Customers can temporarily resolve the issue by updating permissions (ACLs) on the affected directories. Follow these steps:
  1. Open PowerShell as an Administrator.
  2. Update the permissions for C:\ProgramData\ssh and C:\ProgramData\ssh\logs to allow full control for SYSTEM and the Administrators group, while allowing read access for Authenticated Users. You can restrict read access to specific users or groups by modifying the permissions string if needed.

    Use the following commands to update the permissions:
    $directoryPath = "C:\ProgramData\ssh" $acl = Get-Acl -Path $directoryPath $sddlString = "O:BAD:PAI(A;OICI;FA;;;SY)(A;OICI;FA;;;BA)(A;OICI;0x1200a9;;;AU)" $securityDescriptor = New-Object System.Security.AccessControl.RawSecurityDescriptor $sddlString $acl.SetSecurityDescriptorSddlForm($securityDescriptor.GetSddlForm("All")) Set-Acl -Path $directoryPath -AclObject $acl
  3. Repeat the above steps for C:\ProgramData\ssh\logs.
Microsoft is actively investigating the issue and will provide a resolution in an upcoming Windows update. Further communications will be provided when a resolution or additional workarounds are available.

How to get this update

Before you install this update

Microsoft combines the latest servicing stack update (SSU) for your operating system with the latest cumulative update (LCU). For general information about SSUs, see Servicing stack updates and Servicing Stack Updates (SSU): Frequently Asked Questions.

Install this update

To install this update, use one of the following Windows and Microsoft release channels.

AvailableNext Step
Yes (Windows Update)Go to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update. In the Optional updates available area, you will find the link to download and install the update.
Yes (MSU)Before you install this update
To get the standalone package(s) for this update, go to the Microsoft Update Catalog website. This KB contains one or more MSU files that must be installed in order.

Install this update
Method 1: Install all MSU files together

Download all MSU files for KB5044384 from Microsoft Update Catalog and place them in the same folder (for example, C:/Packages). Use Deployment Image Servicing and Management (DISM.exe) to install the target update. DISM will use the folder specified in PackagePath to discover and install one or more prerequisite MSU files as needed.

Updating Windows PC
To apply this update to a running Windows PC, run the following command from an elevated Command Prompt:

DISM /Online /Add-Package /PackagePath:c:\packages\Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu

Or, run the following command from an elevated Windows PowerShell prompt:

Add-WindowsPackage -Online -PackagePath "c:\packages\Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu"

Updating Windows Installation media
To apply this update to Windows Installation media, see Update Windows installation media with Dynamic Update.

To add this update to a mounted image, run the following command from an elevated Command Prompt:

DISM /Image:mountdir /Add-Package /PackagePath:Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu

Or, run the following command from an elevated Windows PowerShell prompt:

Add-WindowsPackage -Path "c:\offline" -PackagePath "Windows11.0-KB5044384-x64.msu" -PreventPending

If you want to remove the LCU

To remove the LCU after installing the combined SSU and LCU package, use the DISM/Remove-Package command line option with the LCU package name as the argument. You can find the package name by using this command: DISM /online /get-packages.

Running Windows Update Standalone Installer (wusa.exe) with the /uninstall switch on the combined package will not work because the combined package contains the SSU. You cannot remove the SSU from the system after installation.

File information

For a list of the files that are provided in this update, download the file information for cumulative update 5044384.

For a list of the files that are provided in the servicing stack update, download the file information for the SSU (KB5046908) - version 26100.2160.



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I noticed something with the Task Manager Processes reporting bug. I opened Task manager and swore I saw the Apps and Background
processes numbers but only for a split second. So I started switching between Processes and Performance and sure enough the numbers
are there but only for a split second before they turn into zeros. Here's a still from a video I recorded.

View attachment 114486
Confirmed here.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVR
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware AW3423DWF OLED ultrawide
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 750 G3
    Case
    Corsair 275R
    Internet Speed
    VTel FTTH 1 Gb down and 1 Gb up
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (UEFI-BIOS version 3607)
    Memory
    32 GB (2x16 GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo)
    Graphics card(s)
    Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6750 XT
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 650 GQ
    Case
    Fractal Focus G
A few days ago, on October 24, the company released the optional KB5044384 patch for Windows 11, which was intended to fix many of the problems. But as Windows Latest reports, this rescue update is itself causing further problems as it crashes and can’t even be installed.
You are correct in that KB5044384 did fix some issues but introduced more. None were serious though, for me at least.

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On balance I decided I preferred to live with the old issues rather than the new ones and successfully uninstalled KB5044384, then I turned off 'Get the latest updates....' so it wouldn't come back. Hopefully the next Patch Tuesday CU will be an improvement on this Preview CU.

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
At the end of the day users have to make their own decisions whether or not to use beta/prerelease versions of operating systems and other software. This isn't meant to read like a backhanded remark aimed at anyone here, but prerelease versions of Windows aren't for everyone.

I'm happy to use the release preview versions of Windows 11 because for me they've been nearly 100% stable with no major issues over a long period. I do not use insider channel beta, dev or canary versions of Windows because they aren't always stable on my PC, and are often buggy.

The same applies to AMD Radeon software and drivers. I only install the official release versions and NEVER use the preview versions or those that AMD and MS try and force onto users via Windows Update. Why? because they're usually not stable with my GPU.
KB5044384 is a 'preview' release, however it was released to Public builds (not insiders) and is available on the WU catalogue.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
    Motherboard
    MEG X870E Godlike
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Seasonic PX-2200
    Case
    Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 X (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    900Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
KB5044384 is a 'preview' release, however it was released to Public builds (not insiders) and is available on the WU catalogue.
Correct. These Preview releases are supposed to be 'production-quality updates', usually they are safe to install. This one may have fallen short of the mark though.... :wink:

Microsoft said:
Optional non-security preview release
You've got options with optional non-security preview releases. Available the fourth week of the month, these production-quality updates are released ahead of the planned security update release for the following month.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
I discover that when I run DISM /online /Cleanup-Image /StartComponentCleanup /ResetBase for the first time it cleans 100%
when I run it for the second time it flips back from 100% to 70% I think that's because everything has already been cleaned.
I always reset windows updates by deleting the SoftwareDistribution directory, after stopping windows update in services, the folder is then recreated after restart, which also solves many problems.

I also think we have to wait for the November 12th patch tuesday, this are all preview updates.
See Post#402
KB5044384 Windows 11 Cumulative Update Preview build 26100.2161 (24H2) - Oct. 24
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 10 & 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iBuyPower (special build)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x370 Pro
    Memory
    64Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung UHD 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung 1 TB SSD each; 1 Samsung PCIe M.2 at 2 TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuyPower
    CPU
    AMD 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus x570 ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero WI-FI 6E ARGB
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    3D PREMIUM surround sound onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32 inch UHD curved monitor
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 pro 2 tb gen 4 NVMe ssd
    PSU
    850 watt consair RM850X
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL ONE tempered glass RGB gaming case
    Cooling
    DEEPCOOL GAMERSTORM RGB 240 mm CASTLE 240EX liquid cooler
    Mouse
    Ares m.2 gaming optical mouse
    Keyboard
    Ares m.2 gaming keyboard
    Internet Speed
    450
    Browser
    Firefox / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
    Other Info
    With all this gaming rig I am not a gamer!

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 2703
    Memory
    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC - Headphone Amplifier: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
    LaCie d2 Professional 6TB external - USB 3.1
    Seagate One Touch 18TB external HD - USB 3.0
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 24.12.1
    AOMEI Backupper Pro
    Dashlane password manager
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
    Motherboard
    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
    Graphics card(s)
    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7 (96EU) 32.0.101.6078
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
3 of my 4 PCs (2 desktops and the laptop) have just installed KB5044384 again via WU, even though all were already on 2161 level. After downloading I then got the message saying update successful. However no reboot requested and level remains 2161. I assume some correction has been made?
How did you install 26100.2161 it the 1st time?
No, there was no correction.
My update history shows installed on 10/24/2024 and that is the only time I got it. 😎🤷‍♂️

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
Thanks for November 12 date for next patch tues - I can’t seem to remember schedule
Second Tuesday of every month, sometimes there are four weeks between, sometimes it's five (like this time)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
    Motherboard
    MEG X870E Godlike
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
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    Seasonic PX-2200
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    Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 X (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    900Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Correct. These Preview releases are supposed to be 'production-quality updates', usually they are safe to install. This one may have fallen short of the mark though.... :wink:

One should never assume that any new release of software as complex as Windows is going to be 'production quality'. That includes the general release builds. There is always going to some builds that slip through that have issues.

That is why having proper system image backups is critical.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3025
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    PC/Desktop
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    Homebuilt
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    Intel Core i9 13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus ProArt Z790 Creator WiFi - Bios 2703
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    Corsair Dominator Platinum 64gb 5600MT/s DDR5 Dual Channel
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    Sapphire NITRO+ AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X 24GB
    Sound Card
    External DAC - Headphone Amplifier: Cambridge Audio DACMagic200M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Panasonic MX950 Mini LED 55" TV 120hz
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 120hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB (OS)
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB (Files)
    Lexar NZ790 4TB
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    PSU
    Corsair RM1200x Shift
    Case
    Corsair RGB Smart Case 5000x (white)
    Cooling
    Corsair iCue H150i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech K860
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Ergo Trackball
    Internet Speed
    Fibre 900/500 Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Total Security
    Other Info
    AMD Radeon Software & Drivers 24.12.1
    AOMEI Backupper Pro
    Dashlane password manager
    Logitech Brio 4K Webcam
    Orico 10-port powered USB 3.0 hub
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Vivobook X1605VA
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i9-13900H
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    Asus X1605VA bios 309
    Memory
    32GB DDR4-3200 Dual channel
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    *Intel Iris Xᵉ Graphics G7 (96EU) 32.0.101.6078
    Sound Card
    Realtek | Intel SST Bluetooth & USB
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    16.0-inch, WUXGA 16:10 aspect ratio, IPS-level Panel
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 60hz
    Hard Drives
    512GB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 SSD
    Other Info
    720p Webcam
How did you install 26100.2161 it the 1st time?
No, there was no correction.
My update history shows installed on 10/24/2024 and that is the only time I got it. 😎🤷‍♂️

View attachment 114547

Windows update history shows it having been installed on 21st and 29th October, and Reliability Monitor also confirms the update on the 24th.

Screenshot 2024-10-29 194952.png

Screenshot 2024-10-29 195104.png
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home 24H2 RP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel I3-10100
    Motherboard
    MSI H410M-PRO
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GT 1030
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 970 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Samsung QVO 870 SATA SSD 2 Tb
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
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    Other Info
    Microsoft Office 2021 Plus
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    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel i3-8100
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z370 D3
    Memory
    16 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GT 720
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
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    Philips 27-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Seagate 2 Tb HDD
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Keyboard
    Microsoft
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Correct. These Preview releases are supposed to be 'production-quality updates', usually they are safe to install. This one may have fallen short of the mark though.... :wink:


This is why I flighted to RP on 24H2. It's better than '2033, which is a flop!
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVR
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware AW3423DWF OLED ultrawide
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 750 G3
    Case
    Corsair 275R
    Internet Speed
    VTel FTTH 1 Gb down and 1 Gb up
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    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (UEFI-BIOS version 3607)
    Memory
    32 GB (2x16 GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo)
    Graphics card(s)
    Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6750 XT
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 650 GQ
    Case
    Fractal Focus G
This is why I flighted to RP on 24H2. It's better than '2033, which is a flop!
Yes .2033 was pretty bad.
After updating to 26100.2161 on R.P. I installed the same update on all my non-insider public build machines, there are still a couple of problems that I reported with FBH, but 26100.2161 works much better than 26100.2033. 😉🤷‍♂️



And this below has been around for over 2 years including windows 10, ignored by MS and never fixed. 😝🤬🤷‍♂️

 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
Hello,
After this update, if I schedule chkdsk to run at the next reboot, it instantly ends and brings me to the login page.

Anyone else with a similar behavior?
Ty

If you have macrium in the boot windows, boot to macrium and use the MSDOS prompt in the interface and do chkdsk c: from there.

Good luck.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker build
    CPU
    Intel i9 13900KS P/E cores 5.7/4.4 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
    Memory
    96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
    Sound Card
    Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; Logan Martin Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
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    2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850X 4TB nvme, SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme, Raid 0: 1TB 850 EVO + 1TB 860 EVO SSD. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black HDD
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    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
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    EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 1 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
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    Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
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    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
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    500 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
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    Firefox
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    Defender, Macrium Reflect X ;-)
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    Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
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    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
Windows update history shows it having been installed on 21st and 29th October, and Reliability Monitor also confirms the update on the 24th.

View attachment 114559

View attachment 114560

Maybe some of your machines are on R.P. channel and one is not an insider. 😉🤷‍♂️
According to the MS Blog, KB5044384 was released on Oct 24, 2024.
You show one installed on Oct 21st. How did you get that?
Perhaps that was the same KB# to update to Build 26100.2152.
I got it just once on 5 different machines on Oct 24, 2024. 😉

 
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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD

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  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3037
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-14700F
    Motherboard
    ASUS TUF GAMING Z690-PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) DDR5
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    MSI GeForce RTX 3060 Ventus 2X 12GB OC
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming 27" 2K HDR Gaming
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 1TB NVMe (Win 11 24H2)
    SK hynix P41 500GB NVMe (Win 11 23H2)
    SK hynix P41 2TB NVMe (x3)
    Crucial P3 Plus 4TB
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    Corsair RM850x Shift
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    Antec Dark Phantom DP502 FLUX
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    Noctua NH-U12A chromax.black + 7 Phantek T-30's
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    Logitech MK 320
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    Firefox
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    Winows Security
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    Windows 11 23H2 22631.4830
    On System One (Dual Boot)
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    Win 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3037
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self Built
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    Intel Core i7-11700F
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    Asus TUF Gaming Z590 Plus WiFi
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4
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    EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 XC Black Gaming
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    SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium
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    Samsung F27T350
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    1920x1080
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    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB
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    Corsair HX750
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    Cougar MX330-G Window
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    Hyper 212 EVO
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    350Mbps
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    Windows Security
Seems MS used the same KB # as 26100.2152

OK, thanks.
That makes more sense, not unusual either, 😎😉
They reuse the same KB# when they release the update to both Insider and Public and they bump up the Build #.
In this case:
From 26100.2152 to 26100.2161 in R.P.
From 26100.2033 to 26100.2161 for non-insider public build.
So, in the public build you see it just once, while in R.P. channel you see it twice. 😂😂
Nothing unusual, happens quite often. 🤷‍♂️


This first screenshot is what it shows on my Release Preview channel and the second one is on my public Build.
That is the typical behavior when they reuse the same KB # even if the updates are not really the same.

R.P. channel, same KB# twice one for 26100.2152 and the last one for 26100.2161
1730256036071.png

Public non-insider Build, this shows only once when updated from 26100.2033 to 26100.2161. (26100.2152 was just for R.P. channel. )
1730255944336.png
 

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    Intel I9-9900K
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    64GB
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    NVIDIA RTX 2060
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    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
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    4k Samsung
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    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
Hello,
After this update, if I schedule chkdsk to run at the next reboot, it instantly ends and brings me to the login page.

Anyone else with a similar behavior?
Ty

@Gobbo,
Could you show the exact command that you used?

I just tried this here and the behavior seems normal.

1730257614088.png

This showed when I restarted, it completed the chkdsk and then came up to the login screen. 😉🤷‍♂️
1730258364568.png

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1730257667637.png
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD
3 of my 4 PCs (2 desktops and the laptop) have just installed KB5044384 again via WU, even though all were already on 2161 level. After downloading I then got the message saying update successful. However no reboot requested and level remains 2161. I assume some correction has been made?

Just discovered why this happened. My ISP's router has a USB slot which allows you to attach a thumb drive to enable simple sharing. I have a 4GB one plugged into it. However it uses basic sharing with SMB1 which has been deprecated in 24H2 so I lost access to the drive. Activating SMB1 via adding the feature re-enables access. It requires a restart, and immediately afterwards Windows Update starts and downloads KB5044384 again. However nothing appears to be installed (or if there is it's dpne very quickly), as no reboot is required and it completes.

What I don't understand is that I've had 24H2 installed on the desktops using Insider Preview since May, yet this problem only arose when this update was applied.
 

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    Windows 11 Home 24H2 RP
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel I3-10100
    Motherboard
    MSI H410M-PRO
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GT 1030
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung EVO 970 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Samsung QVO 870 SATA SSD 2 Tb
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Microsoft Office 2021 Plus
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    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-build
    CPU
    Intel i3-8100
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z370 D3
    Memory
    16 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GT 720
    Sound Card
    Motherboard default
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27-inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 960 NVMe SSD 256 Gb
    Seagate 2 Tb HDD
    PSU
    ATX 450W
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless
    Keyboard
    Microsoft
    Internet Speed
    930 Mb down / 120 Mb up
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    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Just discovered why this happened. My ISP's router has a USB slot which allows you to attach a thumb drive to enable simple sharing. I have a 4GB one plugged into it. However it uses basic sharing with SMB1 which has been deprecated in 24H2 so I lost access to the drive. Activating SMB1 via adding the feature re-enables access. It requires a restart, and immediately afterwards Windows Update starts and downloads KB5044384 again. However nothing appears to be installed (or if there is it's dpne very quickly), as no reboot is required and it completes.

What I don't understand is that I've had 24H2 installed on the desktops using Insider Preview since May, yet this problem only arose when this update was applied.
@RFS,
Hello,
I just verified the same case you reported.
Looks like adding SMB1 causes the behavior you described. Here is downloading again the KB5044384 on the R.P. channel right after installing SMB1.
This machine was already at 26100.2161. 😂😂🤷‍♂️
Note that the update history shows KB5044384 installed today 10/30/2024, the one that was installed on 10/24/2024 is no longer in the history.
Perhaps they add back something that is needed for SMB1, and it is completed without the need for another restart. 🤷‍♂️
Anyway, I'll remove SMB1 because I don't need it. This was just a test to reproduce the behavior you describe. 😉
This unusual behavior seems easy to reproduce. 👌

1730307240104.png

Shows Completed without any restart. 😂🤷‍♂️
1730307465022.png
1730307635243.png

Trying to do it again after removing SMB1. 😂🤷‍♂️
1730308686812.png
1730308779020.png
Completed again, without restart.
1730308828211.png
Probably removed again what is no longer needed for SMB1. 🤷‍♂️
You solved the puzzle. Easy to reproduce. Probably normal with this Build when adding or removing SMB1. 😵‍💫🤷‍♂️

This is also interesting, after these 2 reinstalls SFC failed again for the notorious BT files. Ran fine on second pass. 😂🤷‍♂️
1730309204566.png


2024-10-30 10:24:05, Info DEPLOY [Pnp] Corrupt file: C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\BthA2dp.sys
2024-10-30 10:24:05, Info DEPLOY [Pnp] Repaired file: C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\BthA2dp.sys
2024-10-30 10:24:05, Info DEPLOY [Pnp] Corrupt file: C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\BthHfEnum.sys
2024-10-30 10:24:05, Info DEPLOY [Pnp] Repaired file: C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\BthHfEnum.sys
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 8930
    CPU
    Intel I9-9900K
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA RTX 2060
    Sound Card
    NVIDIA High Definition Audio
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    4k Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3480 x 2160
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    512GB NVMe, ADATA SU 800, 2TB HDD

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