Solved Windows 11 24H2 has un-bypassable hardware requirements...


I'll just see if Microsoft Decides to let us older cpus to just have at it
 

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Because having sse4a, I wander how much of other sse4.2 instructions, that are above sse4a, are used in kernel exe, dll, sys files. Best bet would be that almost non is used, that it uses up to sse4a only, and sse4.2 is used only as capability check, which could be removed.

if kernel exe, dll, sys files are full of sse4.2 instructions, that are not and are above sse4a, then there is no hope for phenoms.
 
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    AMD Phenom™ II N950 Quad-Core Processor
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    MSI MS-168B, RS880M+SB820M, ICS 9LPRS477CKL
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marko234 said:
Because having sse4a, I wander how much of other sse4.2 instructions, that are above sse4a, are used in kernel exe, dll, sys files. Best bet would be that almost non is used, that it uses up to sse4a only, and sse4.2 is used only as capability check, which could be removed.

if kernel exe, dll, sys files are full of sse4.2 instructionI tried s, that are not and are above sse4a, then there is no hope for phenoms.
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I tried a clean install on a variety of systems that don't have SSE4.2 in post #283, moving the SSD with the installed 24H2 between them. This included one system with an AMD that only has SSE4a. None would run, looks like SSE4.2 is required and used.

Bree said:
First issue was that it couldn't even boot from the standard 24H2 install USB made by the MCT. It gets as far as the Windows logo, then reboots before it even starts the spinning 'loading up' circle.

Second attempt was with my hybrid 23H2/24H2 USB. That at least copied all the files, set them up and got to the first reboot. Same issue, it shows the logo, but then reboots before the circles appear. :(

....I'll now take the SSD out and try it in another old AMD laptop that has POPCNT, but no SSE4.2, only SSE4a. This one stalls at the Windows Logo, no spinning circle, but no reboot either.
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Tough luck! We keep 23H2 at these old systems and we should be good at least until 2030 when no application would update or work in 23H2, much like XP. If I still have the same laptop by 2030, I think I will consider buying a newer one, probably refurbished but with newer technology compatible with Windows 11 (or that can be bypassed).
 

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    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
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    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
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    Acer Extensa 5630
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    4GB
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    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
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    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
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    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
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    Custom-built PC
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    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
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    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
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    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
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    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
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    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
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    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
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    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
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spapakons said:
Tough luck! We keep 23H2 at these old systems and we should be good at least until 2030 when no application would update or work in 23H2, much like XP. If I still have the same laptop by 2030, I think I will consider buying a newer one, probably refurbished but with newer technology compatible with Windows 11 (or that can be bypassed).
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what make/model is the pc you have that doesn't have sse4.2? i looked at all 9 pcs i have to test with and they all have 4.2 (some from even pre 2010)... i want to pick one up that i know doesnt have it to play with
 

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Bree said:
I tried a clean install on a variety of systems that don't have SSE4.2 in post #283, moving the SSD with the installed 24H2 between them. This included one system with an AMD that only has SSE4a. None would run, looks like SSE4.2 is required and used.
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By requirement i meant only checking cpuid if it supports sse4.2, not using any sse4.2 instruction, but only sse4a and popcnt.

There is high possibility that sse4.2 are not used but just checked for (so that check for sse4a popcnt would be easier).
 

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    MSI MS-168B, RS880M+SB820M, ICS 9LPRS477CKL
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    16GB, 2 * G.Skill 8192 MB (DDR3-1600) - P/N: F3-1600C9-8GRSL
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dacrone said:
what make/model is the pc you have that doesn't have sse4.2? i looked at all 9 pcs i have to test with and they all have 4.2 (some from even pre 2010)... i want to pick one up that i know doesnt have it to play with
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Is my test laptop, I think from 2009, it originally had Windows Vista Home Basic 32-bit installed which was upgraded to Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit, then to Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit and to Windows 10 Pro 32-bit. I then put a spare SSD and installed Windows 11 21H2 upgraded to 22H2 and then to 23H2. The CPU is a Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000MHz without SSE4.2 instructions support.
 

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    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
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    Acer Extensa 5630
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    4GB
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    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
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    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    1
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    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
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    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
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    PC/Desktop
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    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
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    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
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    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
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    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
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    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
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    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
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    100Mbps
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    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
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    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
spapakons said:
The CPU is a Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000MHz
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cool. i'll find one on ebay with that cpu so i know for sure it doesnt have 4.2. thanks. (im just too lazy to look into cpu models lol)

GusGhanem said:
32-bit OS then 64-bit OS on the same CPU? :unsure:
Or I missed something
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yeah you can do that as long as the hardware supports both. you could install win 10 x86 on your current pc if you want... no point but possible. just cant install x64 (which is all versions of Win 11) on hardware that only supports x86
 

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dacrone said:
cool. i'll find one on ebay with that cpu so i know for sure it doesnt have 4.2. thanks. (im just too lazy to look into cpu models lol)


yeah you can do that as long as the hardware supports both. you could install win 10 x86 on your current pc if you want... no point but possible. just cant install x64 (which is all versions of Win 11) on hardware that only supports x86
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Just for fun, you can install Windows 10 32-bit and then patchpae3 to enable it to use your full RAM, not only 3.25GB. This way you cannot use new versions of Adobe programs that demand 64-bit Windows, but you can enable 16-bit support to play older games for Windows 95 or use really old applications. Also is a challenge finding 32-bit drivers for modern hardware.
 

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    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
dacrone said:
what make/model is the pc you have that doesn't have sse4.2? i looked at all 9 pcs i have to test with and they all have 4.2 (some from even pre 2010)... i want to pick one up that i know doesnt have it to play with
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spapakons said:
. The CPU is a Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000MHz without SSE4.2 instructions support.
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No Core 2 processor has SSE4.2. The first Intel processor with SSE4.2 was the first generation of Core i3/5/7 from 2008 on.

Since 2008, Intel began introducing the Core i3, Core i5, Core i7 and Core i9 lineup of processors, succeeding Core 2.
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en.wikipedia.org

Intel Core - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
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    50 Mbps
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    Edge, Firefox
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    Defender
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Bree said:
No Core 2 processor has SSE4.2. The first Intel processor with SSE4.2 was the first generation of Core i3/7/9 range from 2008 on.


en.wikipedia.org

Intel Core - Wikipedia

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yeah i have intels site with breakdown of all processors in my favorites. just didnt want to look through them at the moment lol. thanks though. also - did you see my amd driver post i tagged you in? curious as to your input
 

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SSE4.2 is called different in AMD CPUs, don't remember the term, but those who have it should have no issue upgrading to 24H2.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
dacrone said:
did you see my amd driver post i tagged you in? curious as to your input
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Sorry, I was out all day yesterday and missed seeing that. I'll respond no on that other thread.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
spapakons said:
SSE4.2 is called different in AMD CPUs, don't remember the term, but those who have it should have no issue upgrading to 24H2.
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apparently Phenom 2 aka Deneb and other K10 based cpus are the ones to watch out for on AMD as they dont support 4.2
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
  • Wow
Reactions: WAI
LINK Damn guy's Damn AMD and there weird specs
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    WiN11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom 775 System
    CPU
    Xeon E5450 3.0GHZ (OC 3.6GHZ)
    Motherboard
    ASUS PQ5-EM
    Memory
    8GB (2GBX4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    1TB|750GB USB, 3 SSDs 2 240GB 1 128GB, 750GB HDD
    PSU
    650WATT Rosewill
    Case
    Rosewill with side Window
    Cooling
    5 Fans and a big HSK for cpu
    Keyboard
    Rosewill RGB
    Mouse
    Rosewill RGB
    Internet Speed
    AT&T 150MB DL\UP
    Browser
    FireFox
    Antivirus
    None
    Other Info
    I'm lucky to even be here after 6yrs from my car accident
  • Operating System
    WiN10 LTSC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Hp 8460p
    CPU
    i7 2670QM 2.20GHZ
    Motherboard
    Hp 161C
    Memory
    8GB (2X4GB) DUAL Channel
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 3000
    Sound Card
    Intel high Def (basically onboard)
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    OS 128GB l Storage (caddy) 320GB
    PSU
    AC (IDK the watts)
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    A USB 3.0 in the Express Card Slot
@spapakons @Bree
i dont have a non supported cpu to play with, but curious... what if you install 24h2 on a pc, and 23h2 on the non supported one, then boot the 24h2 from a linux live usb, slave off the 23h2 drive via usb and copy/overwrite the 23h2 hdd C:\ with the entire C:\ content from the 24h2 install.. will the 23h2 hdd still then boot? the efi on the 23h2 wouldnt have been changed at all...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
y'all missing the point. It's not just the boot files, several kernel files are SSE4.2. Are you going to ignore ntoskrnl.exe & ntdll.dll?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 7

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    window 11 23H2 buil 22635.4010
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell/E6400
    CPU
    Intel Core i7 @2.80GHz 57 °C Sandy Bridge 32nm Tech
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0K0DNP (CPU 1)
    Memory
    4.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 665MHz (9-9-9-24)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 3000
    Sound Card
    High Definition Audio Device
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 pixels
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD2500BPVT-75JJ5T0
    Keyboard
    Device Name Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    PS/2 Compatible Mouse
    Internet Speed
    10mb
    Browser
    ms edge
    Antivirus
    win defender
dacrone said:
@spapakons @Bree
i dont have a non supported cpu to play with, but curious... what if you install 24h2 on a pc, and 23h2 on the non supported one, then boot the 24h2 from a linux live usb, slave off the 23h2 drive via usb and copy/overwrite the 23h2 hdd C:\ with the entire C:\ content from the 24h2 install.. will the 23h2 hdd still then boot? the efi on the 23h2 wouldnt have been changed at all...
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It probably won't work, but using a hybrid 23H2/24H2 you can make a clean installation using the 23H2 version of the Setup that doesn't require SSE4.2 Before booting 24H2 for the first time, just boot with the hybrid USB again in order to install the older 23H2 bootloader that doesn't require SSE4.2 If you do that I don't know what happens next. I haven't found the time to try it yet. If it does boot to the next stage (installing drivers), I would again boot with the hybrid USB to reinstall the old 23H2 bootloader, just in case, before letting it boot in Windows for the first time. I bet the chances to work are very slim, but I would like to try it when I find some time.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
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