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Having said that, if you went for the Intel Arc graphics option it would save you $200 which would pay for the 2tb drive :-)

Are you planning to do any gaming? If not then I think the Arc graphics would be fine. You'd also have less issues with nvidia driver upgrades in future!
I don't understand what you mean by "You'd also have less issues with nvidia driver upgrades in future",??? are their problems with Nvidia driver updates, auto updates???
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
No there shouldn't be - I'm probably being historic there, with much older laptops with nvidia but I'm sure it'll be supported for a long time :-) I didn't notice the arc graphics version had onboard memory, so yes I'd go with the option you chose.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
No there shouldn't be - I'm probably being historic there, with much older laptops with nvidia but I'm sure it'll be supported for a long time :-) I didn't notice the arc graphics version had onboard memory, so yes I'd go with the option you chose.
But your point was a good one for going with Arc to save money. Hey so the RAM link you provided above, that would be the compatible one for this machine if and when i want to upgrade the ram?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
But your point was a good one for going with Arc to save money. Hey so the RAM link you provided above, that would be the compatible one for this machine if and when i want to upgrade the ram?
If you are not doing high-end gaming, 3D rendering, and professional video editing. you are good with 16GB of RAM. Don't overthink. Just get what you need.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
That's not right. If it is defective, it is not your fault. You don't have to pay for anything. You got ripped.
Personally, I only purchase these kind of stuffs on online stores with physical stores in case I need to return them. Instead of driving to Fedex or Purolator, I'll drive straight to the store. Instant full refund. Even if it's not defective, you'll get a full refund. You always have to protect your own interest.
You have advantages over me. I'm disabled and even if I could drive, the nearest store is too far away.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
It’s a balance isn’t it - either go for saving money or pay a bit more to have upgrade ability if you need or want it. As mentioned earlier - 16gb is plenty now but in three or four years time you might wish you had a little more. I tend to keep laptops a long time (if I don’t break them lol) and like to know they’re upgradeable.

So yes it’s a point that nvidia graphics have their own drivers but I’m sure you’ll be fine for a long time. It would be nice having nvidia graphics as well.

Yes I believe that’s the correct ram I linked. I just put dell Inspiron 16 plus in the search box but didn’t check the exact model number.

There are also quite a lot of different 2tb m2 drives - not just the Samsung one I linked - some can cost less. That can be another decision in itself but any of them would do a good job 😊
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Thanks @TraderGary do you mean it you think the specs, laptop look pretty good or are you just trying to shut me up;-):p
My first computer was the original IBM PC in 1981. I've had many dozens of computers over the years. I'm a bit experienced with computers and I think it's a good configuration backed by a good company.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
It’s a balance isn’t it - either go for saving money or pay a bit more to have upgrade ability if you need or want it. As mentioned earlier - 16gb is plenty now but in three or four years time you might wish you had a little more. I tend to keep laptops a long time (if I don’t break them lol) and like to know they’re upgradeable.

So yes it’s a point that nvidia graphics have their own drivers but I’m sure you’ll be fine for a long time. It would be nice having nvidia graphics as well.

Yes I believe that’s the correct ram I linked. I just put dell Inspiron 16 plus in the search box but didn’t check the exact model number.

There are also quite a lot of different 2tb m2 drives - not just the Samsung one I linked - some can cost less. That can be another decision in itself but any of them would do a good job 😊
@Hazel123 @TraderGary @badrobot I should probably stop while im ahead but here is another option/question, do you know if laptops like this tend to run hotter, better, same or worse as the laptop 16 plus that you all have been helping me with? Is the Inspiron 16 Plus still a better choice then the one linked below or is the other one seem better, to you. THe G15's processer, i believe is not as good as the Inspirons, but not sure.

G15 Gaming Laptop – Gaming Laptop Computers | Dell USA (I think this configuration the memory can be expanded)

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
@Hazel123 @TraderGary @badrobot I should probably stop while im ahead but here is another option/question, do you know if laptops like this tend to run hotter, better, same or worse as the laptop 16 plus that you all have been helping me with? Is the Inspiron 16 Plus still a better choice then the one linked below or is the other one seem better, to you. THe G15's processer, i believe is not as good as the Inspirons, but not sure.

G15 Gaming Laptop – Gaming Laptop Computers | Dell USA (I think this configuration the memory can be expanded)

It depends on the task that you are doing. This G15 is a gaming laptop. It only gets hotter if you are doing hardcore gaming. But running regular tasks, it will perform the same as the Dell. Think about what you are gonna use it for. Gaming laptops are bulkier mainly because it houses powerful hardware and needs space for cooling.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
It depends on the task that you are doing. This G15 is a gaming laptop. It only gets hotter if you are doing hardcore gaming. But running regular tasks, it will perform the same as the Dell. Think about what you are gonna use it for. Gaming laptops are bulkier mainly because it houses powerful hardware and needs space for cooling.
I don't care if it's bulkier I'm just asking which has the better build, components
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
We are back to square one here.
I would say you will never feel the difference but you will definitely hear the difference. Gaming laptops are loud.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
We are back to square one here.
I would say you will never feel the difference but you will definitely hear the difference. Gaming laptops are loud.
:LOL: not square one, just between the G15 and the inspiron plus. which do you think has the better build in general not for gaming. looking at longevity... I believe my current laptop is a gaming laptop. Occasionally the fans flare up/make noise but not often.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
I quite like chunky laptops personally :-) The specs seem the same otherwise - processor, ram, drive and graphics. I'd go with the G15 gaming laptop.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
I quite like chunky laptops personally :-) The specs seem the same otherwise - processor, ram, drive and graphics.
Really you think the specs look the same? Did you look at the 1st link? the processors are different..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
It's Core i7 instead of ultra 7 but ..... don't think there'd be much difference to be honest. I'd go with the gaming laptop :-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
It's Core i7 instead of ultra 7 but ..... don't think there'd be much difference to be honest. I'd go with the gaming laptop :-)
OMG ahhhhh decisions decisions:-), why would YOU go with the G15 other then the "chunckiness"
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
Reckon it's less likely to break.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
OMG ahhhhh decisions decisions:-), why would YOU go with the G15 other then the "chunckiness"
Oh and its the i5 not i7 processor, so i5 vs ultra 7
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2 OS Build 26100.2033
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    dell 8940
    CPU
    11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-11600K @ 3.90GHz 3.80 G
    Motherboard
    A00 0427JK
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 super Intel(R) UHD Graphic 750
    Hard Drives
    NVMe PC SN530 NVMe WD
    ST2000DM008-2FR102
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Here are some points I noticed. I'm not a laptop user myself but I've worked on enough of them to know if it was my only system anything less than a 15 inch screen wouldn't cut the mustard for me. Entirely too small.(unless I planned to use an external monitor.)

Note: I can only relate my opinion as to if it was me buying a laptop.

Big drawback on both those laptops with the options that are selected is not enough ram.
16 gb ram is barely enough for browsing and email. It certainly would not be enough for doing much in Photoshop. 32 gb ram is the sweet spot in today's computing IMO so if you go with either one of those, choose the 32gb ram option which will raise its price substantially as well as changing the discrete graphics and size of system drive. DO NOT choose on-board ram. Onboard ram is soldered to the motherboard and can open up a can of worms on down the road.
For example, here is a screenshot of changing the 16 inch laptop to 32 gb ram. It raises price to $1699
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Something else that would be important to me is lack of type A usb ports in both those laptops. The 16 inch has only 2 usb-A, but according to the listed specs on the 14 inch, it has no usb-A ports a all, only usb C ports.(no usb-A is a big drawback) However, both do have thunderbolt so you will probably end up having to use a thunderbolt dock on either one. I know I would have to with all the usb devices I use.
I agree with you 100%. As a Dell Precision laptop user, I couldn't agree more.
I have the maximum of 64GB of Ram in my laptop (NOT SOLDERED), a 15" 4K screen (wouldn't dare go smaller -I use Photoshop a lot), 2TB NVMe, 2TB SATA).

It's not one of these 4K UHD+ - Laptop Computers | Dell USA but they sure do look nice.
www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=4k-uhd-plus-screen-resolution

When I bought mine, it initially had 1TB NVMe and a regular screen. I bought a 4K replacement and swapped it out (so glad). As for deals on laptops, I recommend ebay, but that's me. Much like a new car, the second it drives off the lot it's used and the price goes down. The same is true with laptops.

As for Windows 11 and driver issues, I've had zero issues with either. Super smooth, no problems.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (OS Build 26100.3037)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision Mobile Workstation
    CPU
    Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1535M v5 @ 2.90 Max Turbo 3.80
    Motherboard
    00V5FJ
    Memory
    64GB DDR4 ECC (Error-Correcting Code memory)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro M2000M 4GB GDDR5 & Intel(R) HD Graphics P530
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6" 4K UltraHD
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB Crucial NVMe & 2TB Seagate SATA
    PSU
    Dell 180W 19.5V-9.23A
    Mouse
    Logitech G703
    Internet Speed
    WIFI: Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security + additional Anti Spyware, Anti Malware, etc.
    Other Info
    Thunderbolt 3
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Precision Workstation T5610
    CPU
    Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R)
    Memory
    64GB ECC
The kind of issues I've had on some of the newer thinner laptops: overheating, usbc ports easily damaged, lack of ports. I think one that's built to prevent overheating and looks a solid hard plastic - just seems a lot more long lasting.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    16gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 2TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    200mbps Starlink
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd

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