Hasleo Backup Suite

cereberus · Sunday at 10:39 AM

kelper said:
I don't need three disks to a backup. I don't even need two. I sometimes backup onto a partition on the end disk my laptop has. For safety, I normally backup to a USB HDD or USB SSD.

Sure but you do need two physical drives to clone of course.

Froggie · Sunday at 11:06 AM

For those with interest, here's a LINK to the Hasleo cloning product (FREE version included in the Backup Suite), incl. a comparison chart at the bottom between the available versions.

cereberus · Sunday at 4:30 PM

Froggie said:
For those with interest, here's a LINK to the Hasleo cloning product (FREE version included in the Backup Suite), incl. a comparison chart at the bottom between the available versions.

I note there are paid versions of the cloning app as well as a free version.

Makes me wonder if the backup suite will eventually end up with paid versions (and of free version would be cut down?).

I would think direct user support would only be for premium users (similar to Macrium Reflect)?

I have no evidence to support any of the above - just idle speculation.

antspants · Sunday at 6:46 PM

cereberus said:
I have no evidence to support any of the above - just idle speculation.

I think it’s a fair call.
I have always said that Haslao Backup will probably turn into a subscription when the user base meets their desired numbers.
It’s quite simply todays business model for introducing software, hoping people become dependent and then start a subscription.

mulcas · Thursday at 2:03 PM

Froggie said:
For those with interest, here's a LINK to the Hasleo cloning product (FREE version included in the Backup Suite), incl. a comparison chart at the bottom between the available versions.

Froggie · Thursday at 3:50 PM

antspants said:
I think it’s a fair call.
I have always said that Haslao Backup will probably turn into a subscription when the user base meets their desired numbers.
It’s quite simply todays business model for introducing software, hoping people become dependent and then start a subscription.

I don't understand the "dependence" you refer to above. There are many, many both imaging and file backup options available. I've moved amongst them for years, finding better, faster, more reliable options.

..and in reference to a possible "subscription model" for their software, they've never done it in 13-years of existence... even with their oldest PAID products. I don't s'pect they do it with HBS either... eventually maybe a Lifetime PAID model but not a subscription.

KevTech · Thursday at 5:14 PM

Froggie said:
I don't understand the "dependence" you refer to above.

Macrium built up their base of customers with the free version then when they has a mass amount of people using it they discontinued the free version.
I suspect Hasleo will do the same as they took over the free market Macrium previously held.

antspants · Thursday at 5:47 PM

Froggie said:
I don't understand the "dependence" you refer to above. There are many, many both imaging and file backup options available. I've moved amongst them for years, finding better, faster, more reliable options.

Not sure that there’s anything to understand, it’s quite simple?
People get used to a software and can depend on it like any other software. It’s nice that you’re happy to swap and change, I don’t like to be screwed around so sticking with something suits me nicely.

I know others don’t either as is obvious whenever a software goes from free to paid or subscription and the war of words breaks out.

Froggie said:
..and in reference to a possible "subscription model" for their software, they've never done it in 13-years of existence... even with their oldest PAID products. I don't s'pect they do it with HBS either... eventually maybe a Lifetime PAID model but not a subscription.

You have your opinions, I have mine. Neither of us know. And even if we were in-the-loop… that means jack crap. Companies can change their model on a whim and without notice.

cereberus · 2025-03-28T02:35:30-0400

Yeah - my "idle speculation" only referred to a possible paid version, not what the payment model would be, although the industry is generally moving to perennial subscriptions.

It is naive to think that HBS will be 100% free forever, given most of the other "EasyUefi" tools have premium versions.

If we IDLY speculate that some form of premium version would eventually be introduced, the key issue is whether the free version going forward will retain the features of the current free version.

We have seen the way free versions of minitool partition wizard have reduced functionality over time.

Who is to say HBS would not go down a similar path?

As I CLEARLY stated, this is all idle speculation, and we have no idea what the future brings but I do know one thing - costs going up is as inevitable as death, taxes and lying politicians.

kelper · 2025-03-28T08:10:08-0400

I emailed Hasleo and this is their reply.

"Hasleo Backup Suite is currently completely free, but we also need some profit to keep the product developed continuously (We currently support the development of this product through revenues from other products), so there will be a paid version in the future. We will always offer the free version, but we do not guarantee that all features will be available in the free version."

antspants · 2025-03-28T08:18:23-0400

kelper said:
but we do not guarantee that all features will be available in the free version."

lol why would they be. What would be the point of a paid version if they were. Typical reply from just another company with an agenda.
But I have said throughout this thread, it’s not going to stay free. It’s just a smart business model of making people dependent or relaiant on a software, then it’s a big ol’ can of...

…complete with Rainbow Unicorns.

kelper · 2025-03-28T08:22:32-0400

Oh come off it all you cynics. Hasleo has been around since 2021.

antspants · 2025-03-28T08:24:24-0400

kelper said:
Oh come off it all you cynics. Hasleo has been around since 2021.

What’s cynical about knowing what is blatantly obvious?

antspants · 2025-03-28T08:26:32-0400

It’s the new business model adopted by all software vendors now, that start out as free. I’ve also mentioned in this thread, and others, that the business model makes sense to me.
I’ve also mentioned that I’d happily pay for Hasleo Backup

cereberus · 2025-03-28T08:27:43-0400

kelper said:
I emailed Hasleo and this is their reply.

"Hasleo Backup Suite is currently completely free, but we also need some profit to keep the product developed continuously (We currently support the development of this product through revenues from other products), so there will be a paid version in the future. We will always offer the free version, but we do not guarantee that all features will be available in the free version."

Interesting - so my "IDLE SPECULATION" pretty much hit the bullseye

!

As stated above, there will be a premium version, and the free version may not have all features in the future.

Hasleo Software seem to use the perpetual licence for a 1 off payment model looking at the other offerings.

Now the only question is "When"?

Speculating again, I would guess the (rapid) Delta Restore would be only be available in a premium version?

Froggie · 2025-03-28T09:27:19-0400

kelper said:
Oh come off it all you cynics. Hasleo has been around since 2021.

Actually, as a Dev team (EasyUEFI), they've been around since 2013, they changed their name in 2021.

kelper · 2025-03-28T09:38:43-0400

Has anyone a link to Hasleo Backup Suite Beta?

Froggie · 2025-03-28T11:55:40-0400

The only Betas I've ever seen are when a major new feature is being incorporated... last was when they were adding the Macrium X style data compression. It is now in the current release.

They often issue "test" builds when chasing down obscure problems. The most recent of those builds may be found HERE on their Forum. When enough of the obscurities have been dealt with, a new minor release is usually issued documenting those issues.

Froggie · 2025-03-28T12:39:14-0400

In addition, I have previously seen PUBLIC BETAs prior to new major releases.

Froggie · 2025-03-28T12:44:56-0400

The test builds mentioned above tend to be accumulative... as they fix issues, each additional test build needed for an issue includes all the fix issues from the previous test builds. They are all "use at your own risk" builds... kinda like the main software itself

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