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pietcorus2 · Nov 23, 2023

Why (??) such a big difference ( about 150MB ! ) in the latest backup-ISO .............??
8.1.7638 = 619MB
8.1.7762 = 779MB
There must be a reason for these bytes............!

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

pietcorus2 said:
Why (??) such a big difference ( about 150MB ! ) in the latest backup-ISO .............??
8.1.7638 = 619MB
8.1.7762 = 779MB
There must be a reason for these bytes............!

Maybe they added chocolate chips to .7762?

For .7675 I get 599MB on the USB stick.
Are you sure there's nothing "else" on the USB stick, like maybe a System Volume Information folder, with a few restore points inside? Or a Recycle Bin, with something not fully deleted yet?

kelper · Nov 23, 2023

I used Revo to completely uninstaal 7661. Then I installed 7662, but I still get error 0xc0000395 when booting into Macrium recovery.

CountMike · Nov 23, 2023

Ghot said:
Maybe they added chocolate chips to .7762?

For .7675 I get 599MB on the USB stick.
Are you sure there's nothing "else" on the USB stick, like maybe a System Volume Information folder, with a few restore points inside? Or a Recycle Bin, with something not fully deleted yet?

My ISO is 524.943,360 it's PE,

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

CountMike said:
My ISO is 524.943,360 it's PE,

Mine is PE as well.

I know MS has been releasing a lot of updated WADK packages, lately.

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

kelper said:
I used Revo to completely uninstaal 7661. Then I installed 7662, but I still get error 0xc0000395 when booting into Macrium recovery.

If that's a Macrium error number, rather than a Windows one... you'll probably have to post on Macrium's forums.

Macrium Community Forum

forum.macrium.com

kelper · Nov 23, 2023

Ghot said:
If that's a Macrium error number, rather than a Windows one... you'll probably have to post on Macrium's forums.

Macrium Community Forum

forum.macrium.com

It told me to do a repair install so I will. Even though W11 boots normally.

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

kelper said:
It told me to do a repair install so I will. Even though W11 boots normally.

Yeah... that sounds like a Windows error then.

You didn't flash your BIOS recently, did you? Error 0xc0000395 seems to revolve around whether the BIOS and/or the Rescue Media, is set to UEFI or not. Double check that Secure Boot is set to UEFI.

Also, when "building" the Macrium Rescue Media, I always check mark the box that says UEFI or MBR (lower left).

Just like when booting from Windows install media (or the Macrium Rescue Media)... I have to choose the UEFI version of my USB stick, on my Boot Menu...

I don't know what method you use to boot from your Macrium Rescue Media, but I use the motherboard's Boot Menu.

To access the Boot Menu....

ACER = ESC, F12 or F9 (probably F12)

HP = ESC or F9 (probably ESC)

kelper · Nov 23, 2023

Ghot said:
Yeah... that sounds like a Windows error then.

You didn't flash your BIOS recently, did you? Error 0xc0000395 seems to revolve around whether the BIOS and/or the Rescue Media, is set to UEFI or not.

Just like when booting from Windows install media (or the Macrium Rescue Media)... I have to choose the UEFI version of my USB stick, on my Boot Menu...

View attachment 78841

I don't know what method you use to boot from your Macrium Rescue Media, but I use the motherboard's Boot Menu.

To access the Boot Menu....

ACER = ESC, F12 or F9 (probably F12)

HP = ESC or F9 (probably ESC)

I use Shift+reset and 'use another operating system'. I assume any error was in the wim or efi used to make the bootable option.

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

kelper said:
I use Shift+reset and 'use another operating system'. I assume any error was in the wim or efi used to make the bootable option.

I follow this exactly, when building the Rescue Media...

Windows Security update for Secure Boot - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

knowledgebase.macrium.com

This is the relevant section at that link... "Create New Macrium Reflect Rescue Media"

This is Macrium's solution to the Windows Revocations cr*p.

kelper · Nov 23, 2023

Ghot said:
This is Macrium's solution to the Windows Revocations cr*p.

Thanks. I will use Control Panel to remove the recovery components in case Revo overlooked them. Then I will get MR to rebuild the PE wim and add MR to the Windows boot menu.

cereberus · Nov 23, 2023

I wonder if these issues are a sign of things to come - I get the impression that the leadership has changed with new Phaseolus Vulgaris Counters running the show rather than technical leads now i.e. focus is on sales of leases. I wonder if the techie guys are demoralised (or even less of them now).

I have no evidence to support these assertions other than a sad Black Friday offering.

kelper · Nov 23, 2023

Which is better PE or RE?

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

kelper said:
Thanks. I will use Control Panel to remove the recovery components in case Revo overlooked them. Then I will get MR to rebuild the PE wim and add MR to the Windows boot menu.

Yeah... I'm not sure how REVO would deal with the WADK files that are located IN the Macrium directory.
They're NOT a part of Macrium's program, so REVO "might" ignore them when uninstalling Macrium.

On the other hand, REVO may just think to itself... "if it's in the install directory, then it's a part of Macrium".

Here's the whole post back when Microsoft started messing around with Revocations...

KB5028254 breaks the Macrium bootable media.

Ok... w/o using Rapid Delta Restore... and restoring from bootable rescue media... .6635 ~1:55 .7544 3:14

www.elevenforum.com

NOTE: I don't "add" Macrium to the Boot Options. I use the "Boot Menu" which is a motherboard thing.
On my motherboard I have to spam the F8 key at boot, to bring up the "Boot Menu".

This is MY Boot Menu...

To bring up YOUR Boot Menu (I don't know which comp we're discussing)...

To access the Boot Menu....

ACER = ESC, F12 or F9 (probably F12)
HP = ESC or F9 (probably ESC)

When you build Macrium's Rescue Media on a USB stick, you'll see a check box in the lower left corner of the build window.
It says something like... UEFI and MBR. I always make sure that's check marked.

This is an old picture, but step #3 is what I'm talking about...

kelper · Nov 23, 2023

Ghot said:
Yeah... I'm not sure how REVO would deal with the WADK files that are located IN the Macrium directory.
They're NOT a part of Macrium's program, so REVO "might" ignore them when uninstalling Macrium.

On the other hand, REVO may just think to itself... "if it's in the install directory, then it's a part of Macrium".

Here's the whole post back when Microsoft started messing around with Revocations...

KB5028254 breaks the Macrium bootable media.

Ok... w/o using Rapid Delta Restore... and restoring from bootable rescue media... .6635 ~1:55 .7544 3:14

www.elevenforum.com

NOTE: I don't "add" Macrium to the Boot Options. I use the "Boot Menu" which is a motherboard thing.
On my motherboard I have to spam the F8 key at boot, to bring up the "Boot Menu".

This is MY Boot Menu...

View attachment 78843

To bring up YOUR Boot Menu (I don't know which comp we're discussing)...

To access the Boot Menu....

ACER = ESC, F12 or F9 (probably F12)
HP = ESC or F9 (probably ESC)

It's F2 on my Acer but my method is quicker. I have secure boot turned off as I often boot from USB devices.

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

kelper said:
It's F2 on my Acer but my method is quicker. I have secure boot turned off as I often boot from USB devices.

NO.
I'm not talking about the key press required to enter the BIOS.
I'm talking about the key press required to bring up the Boot Menu that's "outside" the BIOS.

To access the Boot Menu (NOT located in the BIOS)....

ACER = ESC, F12 or F9 (probably F12)
HP = ESC or F9 (probably ESC)

Totally different locations.... The Boot Menu (left pic) is a one time thing... no need to save, and it will auto-return to the "Windows Boot Manager" after next restart.

kelper · Nov 23, 2023

Oh dear, now I can't rebuild the PE wim. Halfway through downloading it I get a dialogue box popping up which asks me to download or cancel. If I select download it starts again fro m the beginning. I am going to use the RE instead.

Caledon Ken · Nov 23, 2023

Start Create Rescue media and remove boot option. If I'm understanding your issue correctly. Me, I like the boot menu as I don't have to get my thumb drive. (Of course you need if drive dies.)

Caledon Ken · Nov 23, 2023

kelper said:
Oh dear, now I can't rebuild the PE wim. Halfway through downloading it I get a dialogue box popping up which asks me to download or cancel. If I select download it starts again fro m the beginning. I am going to use the RE instead.

Had that issue myself on a client device. The only resolution was to try again when things weren't so busy.

Ghot · Nov 23, 2023

kelper said:
Oh dear, now I can't rebuild the PE wim. Halfway through downloading it I get a dialogue box popping up which asks me to download or cancel. If I select download it starts again fro m the beginning. I am going to use the RE instead.

That happens sometimes.
Just open something like Minitool Partition Wizard, and format the USB stick as FAT32, then do the Macrium build again.
After a few "builds", Macrium likes a freshly formatted stick.
Like a dog that wants a fresh stick to play fetch with.
Maybe we need to give Macrium a "Milk-Bone" dog biscuit every now and then.

The joys of 3rd party software.
Which... would probably work fine if MS quit changing everything, every month or two.

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